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<blockquote data-quote="Romans5.8" data-source="post: 8583677" data-attributes="member: 645790"><p>Hello friends!</p><p></p><p>I installed a pair of Polk MM651 Marine speakers into my motorcycle fairing, along with a Rockford Fosgate PBR300X2 amplifier. The audio quality is really harsh at high frequencies. FM audio is really awful, sounding distorted and harsh at all volumes. Audio from my iPhone sounds much better, but it's still really harsh (it makes me cringe) with high pitched and especially loud segments of music (think, guitar solo). Mid and low ranges sound fine. I don't listen to a lot of FM radio, but I honestly cannot now; it's just too harsh.</p><p></p><p>Being mounted in a fairing and in a motorcycle, I am not expecting stellar audio quality. But this is super harsh. One possibility is just that the OEM radio *****. I'm using high level inputs to the amplifier. I simply diverted the factory speaker connections into the amplifier, and connected the new speakers tor the amplifier using the wires supplied by the aftermarket speakers. Doing it this way prevented cutting into the factory audio harness (just cutting the speaker leads, which has a LOT more room to work with than the main harness and can be more easily returned to stock). It has limited adjust (treble, mid, bass) and they don't seem to make significant changes. Simply turning down the treble for example doesn't change the harshness, it just makes it sound muddy and piercing, instead of bright and piercing (if that makes sense?)</p><p></p><p>If it's not that; what else could it be? I'm trying to preserve the OEM look as much as possible, so I'd like to avoid an aftermarket head unit. Plus, it's hard to find a marine head unit (or any head unit, really) that doesn't look obnoxious/stupid. (Side rant: dear audio people; maybe make one thing that doesn't look like a transformer and have flashing lights all over it?) Any potential course of action here?</p><p></p><p>I set the amp using "ohms law". I went pretty conservative, not wanting to drive the speakers too hard; since it would be easy (at 70mph) to drive them super hard for long periods of time. So I played a 1khz test tone at full volume (speakers not connected, ha!) and used my multi-meter to set the amp to just a bit under 100 watts at 2.7 ohms. The speakers are rated for 100 watts at 2.7ohms. That's at a volume level of "30", I generally listen between 15 (55mph) - 20 (70-75mph). This piercing harshness is at anything above about 8 or 10 though; and it still sounds bright at soft volumes; it's just not loud enough to really hear I suppose. I don't know where there is distortion in the factory head unit; but I didn't notice much at max volume before with stock speakers. I routinely ran that thing for hours at maximum volume (which was about as loud as 13-15ish is now with the new amp and speakers). For the record, that's putting the amplifier at about "4" out of "11" (it goes to 11!) on the gain knob. I DID try to set the amplifier at a volume of 15 to be maxed out (thinking I could avoid distortion and that may have been the problem, and of course, just never go past 15). But it wasn't any different, it was just as harsh; and there were huge jumps between each press of the volume switch on the handlebar. I elected this route because I can dial in the volume to what I want, and it doesn't seem any better or worse when the amp is set at max volume vs. when it's set at half volume (of the head unit).</p><p></p><p>Any thoughts? Suggestions?</p><p></p><p>Thanks!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Romans5.8, post: 8583677, member: 645790"] Hello friends! I installed a pair of Polk MM651 Marine speakers into my motorcycle fairing, along with a Rockford Fosgate PBR300X2 amplifier. The audio quality is really harsh at high frequencies. FM audio is really awful, sounding distorted and harsh at all volumes. Audio from my iPhone sounds much better, but it's still really harsh (it makes me cringe) with high pitched and especially loud segments of music (think, guitar solo). Mid and low ranges sound fine. I don't listen to a lot of FM radio, but I honestly cannot now; it's just too harsh. Being mounted in a fairing and in a motorcycle, I am not expecting stellar audio quality. But this is super harsh. One possibility is just that the OEM radio *****. I'm using high level inputs to the amplifier. I simply diverted the factory speaker connections into the amplifier, and connected the new speakers tor the amplifier using the wires supplied by the aftermarket speakers. Doing it this way prevented cutting into the factory audio harness (just cutting the speaker leads, which has a LOT more room to work with than the main harness and can be more easily returned to stock). It has limited adjust (treble, mid, bass) and they don't seem to make significant changes. Simply turning down the treble for example doesn't change the harshness, it just makes it sound muddy and piercing, instead of bright and piercing (if that makes sense?) If it's not that; what else could it be? I'm trying to preserve the OEM look as much as possible, so I'd like to avoid an aftermarket head unit. Plus, it's hard to find a marine head unit (or any head unit, really) that doesn't look obnoxious/stupid. (Side rant: dear audio people; maybe make one thing that doesn't look like a transformer and have flashing lights all over it?) Any potential course of action here? I set the amp using "ohms law". I went pretty conservative, not wanting to drive the speakers too hard; since it would be easy (at 70mph) to drive them super hard for long periods of time. So I played a 1khz test tone at full volume (speakers not connected, ha!) and used my multi-meter to set the amp to just a bit under 100 watts at 2.7 ohms. The speakers are rated for 100 watts at 2.7ohms. That's at a volume level of "30", I generally listen between 15 (55mph) - 20 (70-75mph). This piercing harshness is at anything above about 8 or 10 though; and it still sounds bright at soft volumes; it's just not loud enough to really hear I suppose. I don't know where there is distortion in the factory head unit; but I didn't notice much at max volume before with stock speakers. I routinely ran that thing for hours at maximum volume (which was about as loud as 13-15ish is now with the new amp and speakers). For the record, that's putting the amplifier at about "4" out of "11" (it goes to 11!) on the gain knob. I DID try to set the amplifier at a volume of 15 to be maxed out (thinking I could avoid distortion and that may have been the problem, and of course, just never go past 15). But it wasn't any different, it was just as harsh; and there were huge jumps between each press of the volume switch on the handlebar. I elected this route because I can dial in the volume to what I want, and it doesn't seem any better or worse when the amp is set at max volume vs. when it's set at half volume (of the head unit). Any thoughts? Suggestions? Thanks! [/QUOTE]
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