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<blockquote data-quote="Savant" data-source="post: 149560" data-attributes="member: 546108">Sorry, NOT true.. I have one stripped hole in one of my 10&quot;s box.. you CAN strip a hole in MDF pretty easily, pilot hole or not.. The key is either being gentle with a variable speed drill, or having a clutch on the drill (I had my clutch as tight as it would go, that was my problem)..Hell, you can strip a screw in MDF with NO pilot hole and just a screw-driver.. just depends..And to answer the &#039;loose trim&#039; question, on my Pioneers, there is a plastic rim on top of the mounting plate.. it&#039;s secured to that plate some how, but if the &quot;glue&quot; that held it down broke or something, that part of the trim would be able to move and vibrate.. Some speakers don&#039;t have &quot;trim&quot;, they have gaskets so you can mount the sub from inside a box or inverted ( I have a 10&quot; inverted at the moment, the gasket I&#039;m using is pressing on the trim for seal)..</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Savant, post: 149560, member: 546108"] Sorry, NOT true.. I have one stripped hole in one of my 10"s box.. you CAN strip a hole in MDF pretty easily, pilot hole or not.. The key is either being gentle with a variable speed drill, or having a clutch on the drill (I had my clutch as tight as it would go, that was my problem).. Hell, you can strip a screw in MDF with NO pilot hole and just a screw-driver.. just depends.. And to answer the 'loose trim' question, on my Pioneers, there is a plastic rim on top of the mounting plate.. it's secured to that plate some how, but if the "glue" that held it down broke or something, that part of the trim would be able to move and vibrate.. Some speakers don't have "trim", they have gaskets so you can mount the sub from inside a box or inverted ( I have a 10" inverted at the moment, the gasket I'm using is pressing on the trim for seal).. [/QUOTE]

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