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<blockquote data-quote="Buck" data-source="post: 8755936" data-attributes="member: 591582">I like Kicker.&nbsp; Overall, I think they&#039;re alright.&nbsp; I really enjoy designing for L7&#039;s and Solo X&#039;s.&nbsp; I wish I could get a new Solo X design, the Solo X&#039;s are great subs.&nbsp; I really like them.I mean, the boxes they want aren&#039;t overly big for their actual Sd.&nbsp; Their square cones and the increase of Sd over a round woofer of same size is actually significant.&nbsp; So, a 12&quot; L7, for example, might like a 2.25-3 cube net ported box.&nbsp; But that&#039;s not overly big, it&#039;s just because these subs have such a huge cone area.&nbsp; It&#039;s actually fairly proportional.&nbsp; I mean, they are on the bigger box side of woofers, but so are a lot of very good woofers, like Sundown.&nbsp; They need big boxes too, the X&#039;s and up, and they work well.I did 2 L7 15&#039;s in 10 cubes, designed the box, built it, installed it, Tahoe or similar.&nbsp; Very very loud.&nbsp; There&#039;s another trick to Kickers that I&#039;m not going to give away.&nbsp; Not really a trick, it&#039;s just knowing how to design and read woofers.&nbsp; Those 2 15&#039;s were stupid loud.&nbsp; Hit immediate mid 140&#039;s, maybe high 140&#039;s, in a music box, straight out of the gate.&nbsp; Didn&#039;t sound the best quality wise, they can sound a little....sloppy?&nbsp; Just inherently they do, it&#039;s not the worst by any means.&nbsp; But they do get loud and will play a wide bandwidth.Usually the Kicker L&#039;s excel in 4th orders.&nbsp; Idk how much the L&#039;s have changed since I&#039;ve done a bandpass for them, but I feel like I could make some people mad with a 4th order bandpass L7 box.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Buck, post: 8755936, member: 591582"] I like Kicker. Overall, I think they're alright. I really enjoy designing for L7's and Solo X's. I wish I could get a new Solo X design, the Solo X's are great subs. I really like them. I mean, the boxes they want aren't overly big for their actual Sd. Their square cones and the increase of Sd over a round woofer of same size is actually significant. So, a 12" L7, for example, might like a 2.25-3 cube net ported box. But that's not overly big, it's just because these subs have such a huge cone area. It's actually fairly proportional. I mean, they are on the bigger box side of woofers, but so are a lot of very good woofers, like Sundown. They need big boxes too, the X's and up, and they work well. I did 2 L7 15's in 10 cubes, designed the box, built it, installed it, Tahoe or similar. Very very loud. There's another trick to Kickers that I'm not going to give away. Not really a trick, it's just knowing how to design and read woofers. Those 2 15's were stupid loud. Hit immediate mid 140's, maybe high 140's, in a music box, straight out of the gate. Didn't sound the best quality wise, they can sound a little....sloppy? Just inherently they do, it's not the worst by any means. But they do get loud and will play a wide bandwidth. Usually the Kicker L's excel in 4th orders. Idk how much the L's have changed since I've done a bandpass for them, but I feel like I could make some people mad with a 4th order bandpass L7 box. [/QUOTE]

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