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<blockquote data-quote="StuartV" data-source="post: 1939743" data-attributes="member: 568133">Okay, that&#039;s fine. The number is really not the primary question. It is just one piece of information to consider in trying to answer the real question, which is:If I bring the above parts to an installer and he quotes me 6 - 8 hours labor to install them, is it reasonable to expect that that would include running new speaker wire into the doors or not? It wasn&#039;t explicitly discussed, so if I say &quot;that should have been included in your estimate without having to be explicitly discussed&quot;, am I off base or not?I mean, you don&#039;t discuss it, but you reasonably assume that they&#039;re not going to run the power wire for the amps into the factory wiring harness power wire that goes to the head unit, right? So, where do you draw the line? To me, with these components, I just assumed that, like the amp power wire, the speakers would also not run through the factory wiring harness. But, is my expectation justified enough to insist that the installer not charge me extra, beyond his quote, to do the wiring that way?I kind of feel like I&#039;ve been bent over. I think if we had discussed it ahead of time, they would have said &quot;yes, doing it that way is factored into the estimate.&quot; But, because we didn&#039;t discuss it, they took the lazy way out and are now going to try to make me pay extra to do it right.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="StuartV, post: 1939743, member: 568133"] Okay, that's fine. The number is really not the primary question. It is just one piece of information to consider in trying to answer the real question, which is: If I bring the above parts to an installer and he quotes me 6 - 8 hours labor to install them, is it reasonable to expect that that would include running new speaker wire into the doors or not? It wasn't explicitly discussed, so if I say "that should have been included in your estimate without having to be explicitly discussed", am I off base or not? I mean, you don't discuss it, but you reasonably assume that they're not going to run the power wire for the amps into the factory wiring harness power wire that goes to the head unit, right? So, where do you draw the line? To me, with these components, I just assumed that, like the amp power wire, the speakers would also not run through the factory wiring harness. But, is my expectation justified enough to insist that the installer not charge me extra, beyond his quote, to do the wiring that way? I kind of feel like I've been bent over. I think if we had discussed it ahead of time, they would have said "yes, doing it that way is factored into the estimate." But, because we didn't discuss it, they took the lazy way out and are now going to try to make me pay extra to do it right. [/QUOTE]

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