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<blockquote data-quote="brian84corvette" data-source="post: 4093651" data-attributes="member: 586635">hey guys,im Brian Scarbsand im basicly a car audio newb,&nbsp;&nbsp; sort of...ive always had a crappy system in my ride of some sorts for the past 7 years,and now im taking my bass a bit more seriously.big question here,the surround of the speakers -&nbsp; foam vs rubber.whats the deal.it looks like most all the super top of the line subs are using the rubber surround,&nbsp; instead of the foam.im personaly biased against foam,&nbsp;&nbsp; but it works fine I guess,&nbsp;&nbsp; until it gets ripped or poked thru or something like that,I would also imagine that the foam surround is more prone to failure using a sealed box,&nbsp;&nbsp; due to the preassure pushing out on the foam&nbsp; from the cone displacing the air&nbsp; inside the box,&nbsp;&nbsp; it would seem that the foam surround would fail before a rubber surround would in that situatuion&nbsp; yes? no?im looking to find some subs to browse thru with the rubber surround,I just dont know off hand what they are,&nbsp;&nbsp; and whats good and what sucks.there was a video I saw on u tube&nbsp; about a tc sounds sub that was suposed to be a &quot;w7 killer&quot;&nbsp;&nbsp; that had a beautyful looking rubber surround on it.&nbsp; and that sub was playing &quot;free air&quot;&nbsp; with about 2&quot; of cone movment.are there other subs with the same type of rubber on them?where do I find them?thanks for helping a newb out.im learning,.....I hope.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="brian84corvette, post: 4093651, member: 586635"] hey guys, im Brian Scarbs and im basicly a car audio newb, sort of... ive always had a crappy system in my ride of some sorts for the past 7 years, and now im taking my bass a bit more seriously. big question here, the surround of the speakers - foam vs rubber. whats the deal. it looks like most all the super top of the line subs are using the rubber surround, instead of the foam. im personaly biased against foam, but it works fine I guess, until it gets ripped or poked thru or something like that, I would also imagine that the foam surround is more prone to failure using a sealed box, due to the preassure pushing out on the foam from the cone displacing the air inside the box, it would seem that the foam surround would fail before a rubber surround would in that situatuion yes? no? im looking to find some subs to browse thru with the rubber surround, I just dont know off hand what they are, and whats good and what sucks. there was a video I saw on u tube about a tc sounds sub that was suposed to be a "w7 killer" that had a beautyful looking rubber surround on it. and that sub was playing "free air" with about 2" of cone movment. are there other subs with the same type of rubber on them? where do I find them? thanks for helping a newb out. im learning,..... I hope. [/QUOTE]

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