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<blockquote data-quote="yacob.naif" data-source="post: 1907093" data-attributes="member: 565696">well, cool cool coolplayed with the phasing of all 4 doors today, turns out i had a few miscelaneous problems, turns out my drivers&#039; side front woofer is spliced somewhere along the line, thanks again to the original installers, so a few months ago when i &#039;fixed&#039; my phasing, i actually reversed it.Got a 9v battery, and got all my phasing taken care of, and WOW, that fixed it.I&#039;m blown away by the difference midbass has, and i&#039;m glad i decided to lose the rear tweeter as well, it sounds so much better without it.&nbsp; Plus, now that my rear doors are my midbass speakers, i can use the fader as a midbass volume control, which is excellent, some recordings sound like poop with it, while some i&#039;m completely rediscovering WITH it, so much music i was missing before //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gifOnly thing i will say is that midbass definitely increases the difficulty of tuning the speakers.&nbsp; Some cd&#039;s want the midbass/subwoofer split @ 50, some 60....&nbsp; When the entire freq. range between 70-200hz is lacking or missing altogether, recordings are a lot less picky.&nbsp; And my install&#039;s now capable of TOO MUCH midbass, which is an absurd contrast to my previous problem.&nbsp; Definitely a NIGHT and DAY difference in those type-r&#039;s now that they&#039;re in the enclosure.&nbsp; I wouldn&#039;t recommend it to anyone that still wants full midrange up to 2500 or 3500, but if you can give up rear fill, enclosures in the back TREMENDOUSLY increased my midbass output, and the soundstage is suprisingly less effected than i thought.&nbsp; Especially because if you look at the pics above ^^ the position of the rear midbass driver in my car is actually closer to the drivers head than the front speakers are.&nbsp; It sounds glorious.And also, i haven&#039;t decided what i&#039;m going to do with my front channels, i kinda like it the way it is now, with my front midranges playing 200-3500, and my tweets playing 3500+....&nbsp; Putting the type-r&#039;s in the enclosures definitely killed my high-freq&#039; output, but definitely puts out enough midbass for the entire car, so i may just end up leaving it the way it is.So far i&#039;ve figured out:Anything acoustic, easy listening etc. sounds GREAT with midbass.Tool, not so great.I&#039;m sure i&#039;ll get my x-overs perfected eventually, but for now it just seems like cd&#039;s are hit or miss.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="yacob.naif, post: 1907093, member: 565696"] well, cool cool cool played with the phasing of all 4 doors today, turns out i had a few miscelaneous problems, turns out my drivers' side front woofer is spliced somewhere along the line, thanks again to the original installers, so a few months ago when i 'fixed' my phasing, i actually reversed it. Got a 9v battery, and got all my phasing taken care of, and WOW, that fixed it. I'm blown away by the difference midbass has, and i'm glad i decided to lose the rear tweeter as well, it sounds so much better without it. Plus, now that my rear doors are my midbass speakers, i can use the fader as a midbass volume control, which is excellent, some recordings sound like poop with it, while some i'm completely rediscovering WITH it, so much music i was missing before [IMG]//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif[/IMG] Only thing i will say is that midbass definitely increases the difficulty of tuning the speakers. Some cd's want the midbass/subwoofer split @ 50, some 60.... When the entire freq. range between 70-200hz is lacking or missing altogether, recordings are a lot less picky. And my install's now capable of TOO MUCH midbass, which is an absurd contrast to my previous problem. Definitely a NIGHT and DAY difference in those type-r's now that they're in the enclosure. I wouldn't recommend it to anyone that still wants full midrange up to 2500 or 3500, but if you can give up rear fill, enclosures in the back TREMENDOUSLY increased my midbass output, and the soundstage is suprisingly less effected than i thought. Especially because if you look at the pics above ^^ the position of the rear midbass driver in my car is actually closer to the drivers head than the front speakers are. It sounds glorious. And also, i haven't decided what i'm going to do with my front channels, i kinda like it the way it is now, with my front midranges playing 200-3500, and my tweets playing 3500+.... Putting the type-r's in the enclosures definitely killed my high-freq' output, but definitely puts out enough midbass for the entire car, so i may just end up leaving it the way it is. So far i've figured out: Anything acoustic, easy listening etc. sounds GREAT with midbass. Tool, not so great. I'm sure i'll get my x-overs perfected eventually, but for now it just seems like cd's are hit or miss. [/QUOTE]

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