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<blockquote data-quote="Savant" data-source="post: 177610" data-attributes="member: 546108">You are not taking into account that you have guys in prison that don&#039;t have wives.. they don&#039;t get congugal visits.. they get a bit*h in their cell block.. Just because someone doesn&#039;t see it often, doesn&#039;t mean that it doesn&#039;t happen.. and I would be willing to bet it has a lot to do with which prison you are in and what population you get stuck with.. Not to mention, being ***** once is once to many.. And the fear from knowing it could happen at any time will go a long way to helping someone become even more dangerous and unstable..&nbsp;As I pointed out earlier.. The more you treat someone like a caged animal the more they are going to act like an animal.. not a good idea with someone that already is more primal and out of control than the general public.. And, do you really think anyone is going to be open to suggestion and education under conditions like that?The government in the US doesn&#039;t do much to help ex-cons get jobs.. and most of the jobs they get aren&#039;t going to pay well enough to survive on..You also said that you believe these criminals are &#039;street people living in boxes&#039;, and prison is such a better place that they would rather be there than on the streets.. Sorry, that&#039;s just BS.. Most criminals are either drug offenders (selling/buying etc) and have a place to live, tv to watch, plenty of drugs to use for an escape, etc.. Prison is NOT where they want to be.. No one &#039;wants&#039; to be someplace where you can&#039;t do what you want when you want.. That&#039;s 1/2 the idea behind prison.. you loose a lot of freedoms (one being choices about a lot of thing in your life).. The violent offenders that end up in prison are normally &quot;homeless&quot; either.. they are just violent people with little to no self control.. They don&#039;t want to be in prison either.. I would submit that there is, at best, a miniscule number of prisoners that actually wanted to go to prison to improve their physical environment, if any at all..The bottom line is, if you treat a human like an animal, you will gaurentee they act like an animal.. If you want a human to act human, you have to treat them like a human.. Especially when you are trying to convince them that the way they were behaving isn&#039;t the only way to be.. It&#039;s all part of the &quot;show me don&#039;t snow me&quot; idea..*shrug*</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Savant, post: 177610, member: 546108"] You are not taking into account that you have guys in prison that don't have wives.. they don't get congugal visits.. they get a bit*h in their cell block.. Just because someone doesn't see it often, doesn't mean that it doesn't happen.. and I would be willing to bet it has a lot to do with which prison you are in and what population you get stuck with.. Not to mention, being ***** once is once to many.. And the fear from knowing it could happen at any time will go a long way to helping someone become even more dangerous and unstable.. As I pointed out earlier.. The more you treat someone like a caged animal the more they are going to act like an animal.. not a good idea with someone that already is more primal and out of control than the general public.. And, do you really think anyone is going to be open to suggestion and education under conditions like that? The government in the US doesn't do much to help ex-cons get jobs.. and most of the jobs they get aren't going to pay well enough to survive on.. You also said that you believe these criminals are 'street people living in boxes', and prison is such a better place that they would rather be there than on the streets.. Sorry, that's just BS.. Most criminals are either drug offenders (selling/buying etc) and have a place to live, tv to watch, plenty of drugs to use for an escape, etc.. Prison is NOT where they want to be.. No one 'wants' to be someplace where you can't do what you want when you want.. That's 1/2 the idea behind prison.. you loose a lot of freedoms (one being choices about a lot of thing in your life).. The violent offenders that end up in prison are normally "homeless" either.. they are just violent people with little to no self control.. They don't want to be in prison either.. I would submit that there is, at best, a miniscule number of prisoners that actually wanted to go to prison to improve their physical environment, if any at all.. The bottom line is, if you treat a human like an animal, you will gaurentee they act like an animal.. If you want a human to act human, you have to treat them like a human.. Especially when you are trying to convince them that the way they were behaving isn't the only way to be.. It's all part of the "show me don't snow me" idea.. *shrug* [/QUOTE]

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