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<blockquote data-quote="Savant" data-source="post: 176670" data-attributes="member: 546108"><p>And I bet our founding Fathers are turning in their graves at what this country has done with their beautiful ideals.. When the government and corperate america remove the OPPORTUNITY of part of it's population they are trampeling all over the constitution.. you can't "persue" happiness when you can't feed yourself or cloth yourself or house yourself.. and that makes Jack a dull (and bitter and angry and potentially violent and dangerous) boy..</p><p></p><p>This still doesn't touch on the fact that we have people comming into prison with no tools at their disposal to change their life (from their perspective).. If we want to actually keep them from comming back to prison, those tools need to be given to them (rehabilitation).. simple as that..</p><p></p><p></p><p>Oh, belive me, I get it.. much more so than the average Joe.. I'm not the problem here, people who could care less about 2% of our society living in 3rd world conditions so 2% - 3% of our society can on 75%+ of everything this country has.. they are the problem.. Government helps corperations much more than they help the 'comman citizen'.. this is NOT what the government is supposed to do.. The constitution and declaration of independance were put down to give guidelines as to what the government should do and to put limits on what it could do to prevent it abusing the public.. Problem is, the rich people play on the greed of the typical man and 'buy' favors in the government.. things that are by FAR not in the best interest of the average citizen (or most citizens for that matter)..</p><p></p><p>Anyway, if you want to try and school me on somthing, you might want to start supplying reasonable information to substantiate your points.. If you don't want to do that, then stop crying when someone has to make a presumption to make a rebuttle.. Making 1/2 statements and trying to draw attention away from the topic at hand by attacking spelling and intentionally ignoring the bulk of someone's argument (like I said, you pretty much only commented on the few things you wanted to to try and derail my arguments without actually speaking to my points) isn't gonna get you anywhere.. not with intelligent people anyway.. If you think you actually have a valid point and aren't just spouting personal preference and opinion then substantiate.. otherwise state it's your opinion so no one can actually refute what you say..</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Savant, post: 176670, member: 546108"] And I bet our founding Fathers are turning in their graves at what this country has done with their beautiful ideals.. When the government and corperate america remove the OPPORTUNITY of part of it's population they are trampeling all over the constitution.. you can't "persue" happiness when you can't feed yourself or cloth yourself or house yourself.. and that makes Jack a dull (and bitter and angry and potentially violent and dangerous) boy.. This still doesn't touch on the fact that we have people comming into prison with no tools at their disposal to change their life (from their perspective).. If we want to actually keep them from comming back to prison, those tools need to be given to them (rehabilitation).. simple as that.. Oh, belive me, I get it.. much more so than the average Joe.. I'm not the problem here, people who could care less about 2% of our society living in 3rd world conditions so 2% - 3% of our society can on 75%+ of everything this country has.. they are the problem.. Government helps corperations much more than they help the 'comman citizen'.. this is NOT what the government is supposed to do.. The constitution and declaration of independance were put down to give guidelines as to what the government should do and to put limits on what it could do to prevent it abusing the public.. Problem is, the rich people play on the greed of the typical man and 'buy' favors in the government.. things that are by FAR not in the best interest of the average citizen (or most citizens for that matter).. Anyway, if you want to try and school me on somthing, you might want to start supplying reasonable information to substantiate your points.. If you don't want to do that, then stop crying when someone has to make a presumption to make a rebuttle.. Making 1/2 statements and trying to draw attention away from the topic at hand by attacking spelling and intentionally ignoring the bulk of someone's argument (like I said, you pretty much only commented on the few things you wanted to to try and derail my arguments without actually speaking to my points) isn't gonna get you anywhere.. not with intelligent people anyway.. If you think you actually have a valid point and aren't just spouting personal preference and opinion then substantiate.. otherwise state it's your opinion so no one can actually refute what you say.. [/QUOTE]
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