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<blockquote data-quote="skylineTT" data-source="post: 6741646" data-attributes="member: 576995"><p>jack3d is good and shocker nutritions pre-workout is decent. ive personally tried over a dozen pre-workouts myself and non have any effect on me. my metabolism is retarded. im 5&#039;10&quot; 176lbs with 5% body fat and havnt taken anything but protein. i metabolize anything too quickly so i have to eat like a bear in order to make gains. hemo-rage is pretty good. buzzerk tastes good but doesnt work well, superpump250 only works for about a week on most people. NO-Xplode is decent but only works for a couple weeks, 1MR is garbage, dark rage tastes like your tongue is in a butt hole and doesnt work well, white flood is pretty good and tastes good, and most others are whatever. i havnt had a pre-workout that actually works for me but everybody is different. ill take 2-3 servings at a time just to get the caffein energy but that just keeps me awake at night. a lot of people i know are switching from powders to pills such as &quot;NO Extreme&quot; and stuff like that. theyll take a good half our or more to start working, but you gain vascularity and energy pretty strongly once its in your system. dont take monohydrate creatines.. maybe a kre-alkalyn but its not necessary really. you can start a cycle of natural test booster, which will get you harder, stronger, and gain lean mass as well. just take a good protein such as pro-complex by uptimum nutrition, eat a ton of high carb, high calorie foods, lots of fish, red meat, and stuff like that.</p></blockquote><p></p>

[QUOTE="skylineTT, post: 6741646, member: 576995"] jack3d is good and shocker nutritions pre-workout is decent. ive personally tried over a dozen pre-workouts myself and non have any effect on me. my metabolism is retarded. im 5'10" 176lbs with 5% body fat and havnt taken anything but protein. i metabolize anything too quickly so i have to eat like a bear in order to make gains. hemo-rage is pretty good. buzzerk tastes good but doesnt work well, superpump250 only works for about a week on most people. NO-Xplode is decent but only works for a couple weeks, 1MR is garbage, dark rage tastes like your tongue is in a butt hole and doesnt work well, white flood is pretty good and tastes good, and most others are whatever. i havnt had a pre-workout that actually works for me but everybody is different. ill take 2-3 servings at a time just to get the caffein energy but that just keeps me awake at night. a lot of people i know are switching from powders to pills such as "NO Extreme" and stuff like that. theyll take a good half our or more to start working, but you gain vascularity and energy pretty strongly once its in your system. dont take monohydrate creatines.. maybe a kre-alkalyn but its not necessary really. you can start a cycle of natural test booster, which will get you harder, stronger, and gain lean mass as well. just take a good protein such as pro-complex by uptimum nutrition, eat a ton of high carb, high calorie foods, lots of fish, red meat, and stuff like that. [/QUOTE]

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