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<blockquote data-quote="l7runner" data-source="post: 6737456" data-attributes="member: 585231">X2The only useful ingredients in most of the aforementioned pre-workout products is sugar and caffeine.&nbsp; You can just buy caffeine pills/other stimulants online for very cheap.&nbsp; Muuuuuch less that these designer products.&nbsp; Just be careful on the dosages.&nbsp; NO/Arginnine products have been medically proven to be of no use in regards to lifting weight.&nbsp; The &quot;pump&quot; results mainly from the release of insulin which can be triggered in numerous ways.&nbsp; Also many people exhibit gastrointestinal side effects from use of the products. IE crapping your pants.The placebo effect is present with many of these products.Creatine however has been proven by medical research to have positive results in regards to weight lifting.&nbsp; Bcaa&#039;s as well to some degree (they also cause the release of insulin).Food will be your best friend in regards to gaining muscle.&nbsp; Many of the heavily advertised products are filled with BS unsubstantiated claims in order to drain your pockets.&nbsp; But who can blame them it&#039;s a business after all.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="l7runner, post: 6737456, member: 585231"] X2 The only useful ingredients in most of the aforementioned pre-workout products is sugar and caffeine. You can just buy caffeine pills/other stimulants online for very cheap. Muuuuuch less that these designer products. Just be careful on the dosages. NO/Arginnine products have been medically proven to be of no use in regards to lifting weight. The "pump" results mainly from the release of insulin which can be triggered in numerous ways. Also many people exhibit gastrointestinal side effects from use of the products. IE crapping your pants. The placebo effect is present with many of these products. Creatine however has been proven by medical research to have positive results in regards to weight lifting. Bcaa's as well to some degree (they also cause the release of insulin). Food will be your best friend in regards to gaining muscle. Many of the heavily advertised products are filled with BS unsubstantiated claims in order to drain your pockets. But who can blame them it's a business after all. [/QUOTE]

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