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<blockquote data-quote="chris229" data-source="post: 81876" data-attributes="member: 542614"><p>BUT----------------------------- if it only takes 50W to reach FULL cone movement then there isn&#039;t any reason to be mad-------- unless your concerned about being the BIG guy who uses 1000&#039;s of watts. you see in ANY box design the BIGGER you make the box ---- the less the air holds the sub making it MORE efficient because the cone is free to move. In free air systems the box is so big (trunk) that it really has no effect on the cone anymore. Now the only thing holding the cone is the subs suspension( which are normally made stiffer to control the cone better) ------ because you stated that the compant really calls it a midbass---- that can be used as a sub makes me stand stronger on my point.&nbsp; WITHOUT a box the sub DOESN&#039;T handle bass very well at higher power.&nbsp; AS most people know if you play most subs in the open air not mounted to anything--------they can&#039;t take much power before maxing out. This same idea applies to free air design the only difference is your keeping the back wave of the sub in a really huge box</p></blockquote><p></p>

[QUOTE="chris229, post: 81876, member: 542614"] BUT----------------------------- if it only takes 50W to reach FULL cone movement then there isn't any reason to be mad-------- unless your concerned about being the BIG guy who uses 1000's of watts. you see in ANY box design the BIGGER you make the box ---- the less the air holds the sub making it MORE efficient because the cone is free to move. In free air systems the box is so big (trunk) that it really has no effect on the cone anymore. Now the only thing holding the cone is the subs suspension( which are normally made stiffer to control the cone better) ------ because you stated that the compant really calls it a midbass---- that can be used as a sub makes me stand stronger on my point. WITHOUT a box the sub DOESN'T handle bass very well at higher power. AS most people know if you play most subs in the open air not mounted to anything--------they can't take much power before maxing out. This same idea applies to free air design the only difference is your keeping the back wave of the sub in a really huge box [/QUOTE]

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