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<blockquote data-quote="Unregistered" data-source="post: 15905"><p>The funny part is that the S/N ratio on the new Sony Decks is 96dB, which actually SURPASSES that of Pioneer decks (they have a S/N of 94dB, including Premere.) Now the only problem with this is that Sony sucks hard. Which puts Pioneer between a rock and a hard place. Instead of buying your deck for the glittery display, you could buy a deck built for clean sound, like an Kenwood eXcelon, Alpine or Eclipse, and use the sound to entertain you instead of the fishies, the way it's suppost to be. The S/N on an eXcelon is 105dB, and as i'm sure you know, every 10dB, sound output doubles, so a Kenwood eXcelon actually picks up and distingusihes over twice the music from the background interference than a Pioneer is physically able to. Now we'll take a look at a comperably priced Pioneer DEH-P7400MP (retails for $329.95 on Crutchfield.) We can see that it has 2 pair of pre-amp outputs operating at a mere 2.2V. We'll look at the eXcelon equivilent (KDC-X659) and notice that it, too is an MP3 player, just like the 7400MP, but has 3 pair of 4.5V pre-outs instead of two. Because it is an MP3 player, it has a lower Signal to Noise ratio than standard eXcelons, but this is still 96dB, compared to Pioneer's still pitiful 94dB. There are many decks you can buy for not much more of an investment (if any.) People need to look past OEL displays and buy products that sound good. Not that it matters, really. I guess we don't all enjoy distortion-free music when we crank the volume level....</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Unregistered, post: 15905"] The funny part is that the S/N ratio on the new Sony Decks is 96dB, which actually SURPASSES that of Pioneer decks (they have a S/N of 94dB, including Premere.) Now the only problem with this is that Sony sucks hard. Which puts Pioneer between a rock and a hard place. Instead of buying your deck for the glittery display, you could buy a deck built for clean sound, like an Kenwood eXcelon, Alpine or Eclipse, and use the sound to entertain you instead of the fishies, the way it's suppost to be. The S/N on an eXcelon is 105dB, and as i'm sure you know, every 10dB, sound output doubles, so a Kenwood eXcelon actually picks up and distingusihes over twice the music from the background interference than a Pioneer is physically able to. Now we'll take a look at a comperably priced Pioneer DEH-P7400MP (retails for $329.95 on Crutchfield.) We can see that it has 2 pair of pre-amp outputs operating at a mere 2.2V. We'll look at the eXcelon equivilent (KDC-X659) and notice that it, too is an MP3 player, just like the 7400MP, but has 3 pair of 4.5V pre-outs instead of two. Because it is an MP3 player, it has a lower Signal to Noise ratio than standard eXcelons, but this is still 96dB, compared to Pioneer's still pitiful 94dB. There are many decks you can buy for not much more of an investment (if any.) People need to look past OEL displays and buy products that sound good. Not that it matters, really. I guess we don't all enjoy distortion-free music when we crank the volume level.... [/QUOTE]
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