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<blockquote data-quote="DS-21" data-source="post: 6596252" data-attributes="member: 577690">Nope.&nbsp; It wasn&#039;t.&nbsp; And I never claimed anything was mine that wasn&#039;t.I&quot;m not open-minded about the &quot;audibility&quot; of stupid shit like nonbroken amps of competent design and wires, no.&nbsp; The science is clear, it&#039;s just the marketing and the delusions of the deaf that&#039;s muddying things up.I don&#039;t know that you are right about that.&nbsp; I don&#039;t think it&#039;s true, though, given that at the very least such tests go on at Harman (perhaps you noticed the reference to Drs. Toole and Olive, supra), DTS (presumably: JJ is currently CTO there), Audyssey, QSC (who put the ABX Comparator into production, after all), and others.But if that&#039;s true, it&#039;s a bloody sad commentary on the state of so-called high-end audio.&nbsp; After all, if companies don&#039;t know that their products are audibly different from others - audible differences being required for audio superiority to even be an issue - then they don&#039;t know anything.&nbsp; Well, actually, &quot;don&#039;t know anything&quot; is a pretty accurate commentary on modern high-end audio.Just as people who like to brag about the size of their schlongs are usually millimeter men, people who use the &quot;golden ears&quot; argument are usually the least discriminating listeners.&nbsp; The fact of the matter is, JND&#039;s (that&#039;s &quot;just noticeable differences&quot; for scientific illiterates like you) for most of this stuff is well known, and well covered in the serious literature.Um, you measure the output with a &#039;scope and turn the appropriate knob to get the levels matched?&nbsp; Really, for someone borderline literate that was clearly implied in my post, supra.What fact, and what assumption?A few things.First, my age is somehow calculated wrong by the site in my profile.&nbsp; In fact, if one does the math from my birthday (which is shown in the profile, I believe) that is readily apparent.Second, my recollection is that Andrew worked at DAL in 2000 and at least some of 2001.&nbsp; That&#039;s not 11 years ago.&nbsp; I&#039;m not going to do any research on that, however, because I just don&#039;t care that much.&nbsp; At any rate, I always communicated with him over his AOL address and not a DAL address.&nbsp; (Maybe DAL didn&#039;t have e-mail addresses.&nbsp; All of my correspondence with Mr. Dunlavy was over the address &quot;DALJHD@cs.com.&quot;)How does asking someone who&#039;s accomplished in a field questions, and he having the grace to answer, say anything about me except that I learned early on that the worst someone who knows something you want to learn can say is &quot;go away,&quot; but that they usually don&#039;t?I assume there&#039;s a thread on RAH-E about that.&nbsp; How about a cite?&nbsp; Maybe it&#039;s around the time of Steve Zipser fiasco.&nbsp; Fiasco for people who hear with things other than their ears, at least.&nbsp; People who do hear with their ears think it&#039;s funny that a loudmouth dealer couldn&#039;t hear the difference between a Pass Aleph something and Tom Nousaine&#039;s Yamaha integraed amp.&nbsp; Remember that?I never had the pleasure of meeting the man, only speaking and corresponding with him.But &quot;floobydust&quot; is his word.&nbsp; (I would use another word that starts with &quot;f&quot;...)&nbsp; Another phrase he used to describe the idiotic wire industry is &quot;buzzard salve.&quot;&nbsp; Here are some of Mr. Dunlavy&#039;s public words on the subject: <a href="http://www.verber.com/mark/ce/cables.html" target="_blank">http://www.verber.com/mark/ce/cables.html</a>Shall I just call you Tommy?&nbsp; Deaf, dumb, and blind.&nbsp; I&#039;ve been accused of many things, but I don&#039;t think there&#039;s any question that my voice shines through in everything I write.Given your obvious dedication to a con, I couldn&#039;t give half a **** what you think. (Though I also won&#039;t make the assumption that you are capable of actual human thought, either.)&nbsp; I&#039;m done with your sorry ***.&nbsp; Cheers.&nbsp; Enjoy your delusions.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="DS-21, post: 6596252, member: 577690"] Nope. It wasn't. And I never claimed anything was mine that wasn't. I"m not open-minded about the "audibility" of stupid shit like nonbroken amps of competent design and wires, no. The science is clear, it's just the marketing and the delusions of the deaf that's muddying things up. I don't know that you are right about that. I don't think it's true, though, given that at the very least such tests go on at Harman (perhaps you noticed the reference to Drs. Toole and Olive, supra), DTS (presumably: JJ is currently CTO there), Audyssey, QSC (who put the ABX Comparator into production, after all), and others. But if that's true, it's a bloody sad commentary on the state of so-called high-end audio. After all, if companies don't know that their products are audibly different from others - audible differences being required for audio [I]superiority[/I] to even be an issue - then they don't know anything. Well, actually, "don't know anything" is a pretty accurate commentary on modern high-end audio. Just as people who like to brag about the size of their schlongs are usually millimeter men, people who use the "golden ears" argument are usually the least discriminating listeners. The fact of the matter is, JND's (that's "just noticeable differences" for scientific illiterates like you) for most of this stuff is well known, and well covered in the serious literature. Um, you measure the output with a 'scope and turn the appropriate knob to get the levels matched? Really, for someone borderline literate that was clearly implied in my post, supra. What fact, and what assumption? A few things. First, my age is somehow calculated wrong by the site in my profile. In fact, if one does the math from my birthday (which is shown in the profile, I believe) that is readily apparent. Second, my recollection is that Andrew worked at DAL in 2000 and at least some of 2001. That's not 11 years ago. I'm not going to do any research on that, however, because I just don't care that much. At any rate, I always communicated with him over his AOL address and not a DAL address. (Maybe DAL didn't have e-mail addresses. All of my correspondence with Mr. Dunlavy was over the address "DALJHD@cs.com.") How does asking someone who's accomplished in a field questions, and he having the grace to answer, say anything about me except that I learned early on that the worst someone who knows something you want to learn can say is "go away," but that they usually don't? I assume there's a thread on RAH-E about that. How about a cite? Maybe it's around the time of Steve Zipser fiasco. Fiasco for people who hear with things other than their ears, at least. People who do hear with their ears think it's funny that a loudmouth dealer couldn't hear the difference between a Pass Aleph something and Tom Nousaine's Yamaha integraed amp. Remember that? I never had the pleasure of meeting the man, only speaking and corresponding with him. But "floobydust" is his word. (I would use another word that starts with "f"...) Another phrase he used to describe the idiotic wire industry is "buzzard salve." Here are some of Mr. Dunlavy's public words on the subject: [URL="http://www.verber.com/mark/ce/cables.html"]http://www.verber.com/mark/ce/cables.html[/URL] Shall I just call you Tommy? Deaf, dumb, and blind. I've been accused of many things, but I don't think there's any question that my voice shines through in everything I write. Given your obvious dedication to a con, I couldn't give half a **** what you think. (Though I also won't make the assumption that you are capable of actual human thought, either.) I'm done with your sorry ***. Cheers. Enjoy your delusions. [/QUOTE]

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