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<blockquote data-quote="DS-21" data-source="post: 6595691" data-attributes="member: 577690"><p>I said I was familiar with the system and had listened to it for years, not that I was mine.</p><p></p><p>And why the hell is someone with a brain going to pay attention to the ****ing wires stringing together two boxes, unless one of them is disconnected? Anyone who thinks wires matter in the slightest is, simply speaking, a deaf idiot.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Actually, if you knew something about audio beyond the price tags of overpriced crap you would know that the necessity of listener training has in fact been debated in the serious audio community. Somebody - Dr. Sean Olive or Dr. Floyd Toole, perhaps - did a comparison between listeners who had gone through Harman's listener training protocols and untrained listeners. What they found was that both sets reached the same result, but that a larger n was required for the same level of statistical significance in the untrained listeners.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I am <em>now,</em> because unlike some I am capable of learning from my experiences. I got interested in doing such tests by reading studies about what is actually audible and what not, and then doing my own tests. Had I thought so at the time, do you think I would've wasted 2 grand on a Nelson Pass-designed Adcom amp as a 18 year-old instead of buying a similarly powerful Crown or Mackie or QSC at a quarter the price?</p><p></p><p></p><p>If you consider the difference between "quite a bit" and "not at all" orders of magnitude, then absolutely right, yes..</p><p></p><p></p><p>0.1dB, measured with a scope with pink noise, then spot-checked with three or four sine waves picked randomly from Sound Check with Alan Parsons and Stephen Court (Mobile Fidelity SPCD-15).</p><p></p><p>Of course, if you actually had a half a bloody clue what you were talking about you would've asked me about switching protocol and any delays involved, not the level matching...</p><p></p><p></p><p>A picture of my music would just be a shot of an external hard drive. According to iTunes, my music collection - all stored in Apple Lossless format, burned from CD's or ripped from vinyl - consists of 19,991 items, 61.5 days, 581.74 GB worth of music. And then I have a handful, maybe 30-35 SACD's and DVD-A's.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I'm slightly familiar with the SC-V. More so, admittedly, with and SC-IVA, which I used to own but discarded for better speakers. I've also had many interesting phone and e-mail conversations with Andrew Rigby, then of DAL, and the late John Dunlavy. Dunlavys do have an very coherent, penetrating sound, but they also require one to keep her/his head in a vice to keep in the sweet spot. Because of the driver spacing and 1st order crossovers, they only have that exquisite focus in a very, very tiny spot even in a very large room. Better speakers - those with narrow, constant directivity - throw a sweet region of sound, not a sweet postage stamp. Dunlavys are possibly the world's biggest headphones. Great for antisocial loaners but not so great for people who like to share the music with friends.</p><p></p><p>Oh, and because of their impedance curve, all amps will sound the same on your Dunlavys. And since you mentioned wires, Mr. Dunlavy, as you might know, referred to the claims that audio wires make a sonic difference as "floobydust." (Yes, DAL sold wires. Mr. Dunlavy freely admitted that the only reason he did so was that there was easy profit to make off of gullible people, and he looked at it as a subsidy for his speaker business.)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DS-21, post: 6595691, member: 577690"] I said I was familiar with the system and had listened to it for years, not that I was mine. And why the hell is someone with a brain going to pay attention to the ****ing wires stringing together two boxes, unless one of them is disconnected? Anyone who thinks wires matter in the slightest is, simply speaking, a deaf idiot. Actually, if you knew something about audio beyond the price tags of overpriced crap you would know that the necessity of listener training has in fact been debated in the serious audio community. Somebody - Dr. Sean Olive or Dr. Floyd Toole, perhaps - did a comparison between listeners who had gone through Harman's listener training protocols and untrained listeners. What they found was that both sets reached the same result, but that a larger n was required for the same level of statistical significance in the untrained listeners. I am [I]now,[/I] because unlike some I am capable of learning from my experiences. I got interested in doing such tests by reading studies about what is actually audible and what not, and then doing my own tests. Had I thought so at the time, do you think I would've wasted 2 grand on a Nelson Pass-designed Adcom amp as a 18 year-old instead of buying a similarly powerful Crown or Mackie or QSC at a quarter the price? If you consider the difference between "quite a bit" and "not at all" orders of magnitude, then absolutely right, yes.. 0.1dB, measured with a scope with pink noise, then spot-checked with three or four sine waves picked randomly from Sound Check with Alan Parsons and Stephen Court (Mobile Fidelity SPCD-15). Of course, if you actually had a half a bloody clue what you were talking about you would've asked me about switching protocol and any delays involved, not the level matching... A picture of my music would just be a shot of an external hard drive. According to iTunes, my music collection - all stored in Apple Lossless format, burned from CD's or ripped from vinyl - consists of 19,991 items, 61.5 days, 581.74 GB worth of music. And then I have a handful, maybe 30-35 SACD's and DVD-A's. I'm slightly familiar with the SC-V. More so, admittedly, with and SC-IVA, which I used to own but discarded for better speakers. I've also had many interesting phone and e-mail conversations with Andrew Rigby, then of DAL, and the late John Dunlavy. Dunlavys do have an very coherent, penetrating sound, but they also require one to keep her/his head in a vice to keep in the sweet spot. Because of the driver spacing and 1st order crossovers, they only have that exquisite focus in a very, very tiny spot even in a very large room. Better speakers - those with narrow, constant directivity - throw a sweet region of sound, not a sweet postage stamp. Dunlavys are possibly the world's biggest headphones. Great for antisocial loaners but not so great for people who like to share the music with friends. Oh, and because of their impedance curve, all amps will sound the same on your Dunlavys. And since you mentioned wires, Mr. Dunlavy, as you might know, referred to the claims that audio wires make a sonic difference as "floobydust." (Yes, DAL sold wires. Mr. Dunlavy freely admitted that the only reason he did so was that there was easy profit to make off of gullible people, and he looked at it as a subsidy for his speaker business.) [/QUOTE]
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