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<blockquote data-quote="jakesford" data-source="post: 2777889" data-attributes="member: 573801">I didn&#039;t like any of the focals within this price range, in fact the only focals that I liked were like $600 at a local shop... Can&#039;t remember the exact model, but the lower ones just didn&#039;t have the sharp midbass that the pioneers have IMO.I was seriously looking at BA pro60&#039;s, since they were &quot;close&quot; to the price of the pioneers, and they sounded good... In fact IMO they were the only set that I heard that performed at the same level of the pioneers, but the extra $$$ knocked them out.I wish I could have heard some CDT&#039;s and Rainbows, but I don&#039;t know anyone with those, so I was kinda limited.... Wish I could compare them to more but I don&#039;t have access to or the money to try a lot of sets lol:laugh:Its worlds of improvement over stock speakers, and they perform great for what they are, but a sub is really needed to handle the lows.&nbsp; Could I live with my setup as it is without a sub, absolutely but I would like a little more power there, and let the components handle what they do best.&nbsp; That said these will make you feel a bass drum hit etc if you turn it up, and they haven&#039;t lost any composure with what I&#039;ve thrown at them<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite6" alt=":cool:" title="Cool&nbsp; &nbsp; :cool:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":cool:" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="jakesford, post: 2777889, member: 573801"] I didn't like any of the focals within this price range, in fact the only focals that I liked were like $600 at a local shop... Can't remember the exact model, but the lower ones just didn't have the sharp midbass that the pioneers have IMO. I was seriously looking at BA pro60's, since they were "close" to the price of the pioneers, and they sounded good... In fact IMO they were the only set that I heard that performed at the same level of the pioneers, but the extra $$$ knocked them out. I wish I could have heard some CDT's and Rainbows, but I don't know anyone with those, so I was kinda limited.... Wish I could compare them to more but I don't have access to or the money to try a lot of sets lol:laugh: Its worlds of improvement over stock speakers, and they perform great for what they are, but a sub is really needed to handle the lows. Could I live with my setup as it is without a sub, absolutely but I would like a little more power there, and let the components handle what they do best. That said these will make you feel a bass drum hit etc if you turn it up, and they haven't lost any composure with what I've thrown at them:cool: [/QUOTE]

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