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<blockquote data-quote="deaf tones" data-source="post: 5130693" data-attributes="member: 559871">IPlease, i emplore j00, present facts, numbers, statistics and cite sources.This so-called American counterpart you type of, which areas did they represent, what plants did they work in and do they accurately depict American&#039;s on a whole?I like the argument of sick day comparisons.&nbsp; It&#039;s also been proven that when a company combines all sick and vacation days into one lump sum dubbed as PTO, employees are rarely sick.&nbsp; When an employee is given &quot;sick pay&quot; and the thought process of the company is, &quot;if you don&#039;t use it, you lose it,&quot; I can guaran****tee the employees will use it.&nbsp; //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gifSo that begs the question, chief, were these offshore companies giving their employees sick pay, PTO or no pay for sick days?&nbsp; That answer, in itself, pretty much debunks the overseas sick days vs american sick days argument.As far as competent understanding of tasks they perform, it&#039;s the old American model in industrial type gigs to keep their employees ignorant.&nbsp; Venture outside of industrial type gigs into technical type gigs, companies, on a whole, reward intellectual advancement.&nbsp; At what point does that balance out?&nbsp; Better question, when outsourcing techy/engineering type gigs, does the same competence ration apply?&nbsp; Speaking of competence and outsourcing techy/engineering type gigs, what does it say about a product engineered overseas that tries to adhere to American/local specifications?Oh and, um, this productive plants argument, please elaborate on how they were compared.&nbsp; If it&#039;s daily/monthly/yearly production versus hour per hour comparison, it&#039;s flawed.&nbsp; We have labor laws for a reason where as others do not.&nbsp; Of course a plant that requires 16 hour days with no lunch will produce more than an American plant.&nbsp; //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gifYou&#039;re right, you shouldn&#039;t have bothered.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="deaf tones, post: 5130693, member: 559871"] I Please, i emplore j00, present facts, numbers, statistics and cite sources. This so-called American counterpart you type of, which areas did they represent, what plants did they work in and do they accurately depict American's on a whole? I like the argument of sick day comparisons. It's also been proven that when a company combines all sick and vacation days into one lump sum dubbed as PTO, employees are rarely sick. When an employee is given "sick pay" and the thought process of the company is, "if you don't use it, you lose it," I can guaran****tee the employees will use it. [IMG]//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif[/IMG] So that begs the question, chief, were these offshore companies giving their employees sick pay, PTO or no pay for sick days? That answer, in itself, pretty much debunks the overseas sick days vs american sick days argument. As far as competent understanding of tasks they perform, it's the old American model in industrial type gigs to keep their employees ignorant. Venture outside of industrial type gigs into technical type gigs, companies, on a whole, reward intellectual advancement. At what point does that balance out? Better question, when outsourcing techy/engineering type gigs, does the same competence ration apply? Speaking of competence and outsourcing techy/engineering type gigs, what does it say about a product engineered overseas that tries to adhere to American/local specifications? Oh and, um, this productive plants argument, please elaborate on how they were compared. If it's daily/monthly/yearly production versus hour per hour comparison, it's flawed. We have labor laws for a reason where as others do not. Of course a plant that requires 16 hour days with no lunch will produce more than an American plant. [IMG]//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif[/IMG] You're right, you shouldn't have bothered. [/QUOTE]

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