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<blockquote data-quote="B&amp;amp;amp;R Innovation2" data-source="post: 632497" data-attributes="member: 547489">Listen they are cheap subwoofers for people on cheap budgets. Your definition from &#039;slam&#039;, I am sure, differs greatly from my defintion from &#039;slam&#039;. Unfortunatly most the people here are only caught on the sheer loudness of a driver and never take time to learn the mechanics behind it all. There is a reason people shit on Performance Techniques, because they are cheep drivers, designed cheeply with cheap materials.Lastly I highly doubt in anyway that PT is going to make a serious dent in any car audio department except swap meets ever, or at very least anytime soon. Audiobahn came into the market with subs that took a decent amount of power, put out a decent amount of SPL and were fairly cheep, a great combo for the teen bumper market. Their design quality has improved and are more accepted by the enthusiest group. Regardless anyone who has 3-4 years in this knows that for the price Audiobahns really aren&#039;t worth it because as SPL drivers they don&#039;t have enough and they&#039;ll never be an SQ sub. They came in with a much more prominent base that PT had or has. Audiobahn has greatly diversified it&#039;s elecronic componet line using quality buildhouses, which has also up&#039;d their overall image. Their amps, albeit overpriced IMO, are pretty nice. That is another market PT has failed to capture because their amps are prone to premature failure, misleading power ratings, and cheep components.In comparison PT is that of Volfenhag, Boss...ect. They will forever be a swap meet quality driver. If you like them them, thats fine, you are perfectly allowed too...so keep doing it.As old and retorical as it sounds, a good install can often make up for shitty components.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="B&R Innovation2, post: 632497, member: 547489"] Listen they are cheap subwoofers for people on cheap budgets. Your definition from 'slam', I am sure, differs greatly from my defintion from 'slam'. Unfortunatly most the people here are only caught on the sheer loudness of a driver and never take time to learn the mechanics behind it all. There is a reason people shit on Performance Techniques, because they are cheep drivers, designed cheeply with cheap materials. Lastly I highly doubt in anyway that PT is going to make a serious dent in any car audio department except swap meets ever, or at very least anytime soon. Audiobahn came into the market with subs that took a decent amount of power, put out a decent amount of SPL and were fairly cheep, a great combo for the teen bumper market. Their design quality has improved and are more accepted by the enthusiest group. Regardless anyone who has 3-4 years in this knows that for the price Audiobahns really aren't worth it because as SPL drivers they don't have enough and they'll never be an SQ sub. They came in with a much more prominent base that PT had or has. Audiobahn has greatly diversified it's elecronic componet line using quality buildhouses, which has also up'd their overall image. Their amps, albeit overpriced IMO, are pretty nice. That is another market PT has failed to capture because their amps are prone to premature failure, misleading power ratings, and cheep components. In comparison PT is that of Volfenhag, Boss...ect. They will forever be a swap meet quality driver. If you like them them, thats fine, you are perfectly allowed too...so keep doing it. As old and retorical as it sounds, a good install can often make up for shitty components. [/QUOTE]

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