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<blockquote data-quote="perfecxionX" data-source="post: 7251727" data-attributes="member: 572854"><p>It sounds like you are only speaking to the ability of the average person to run for office.&nbsp; At the end of the day representatives are elected by the people and the people can vote many different ways, they are not limited to dem or rep.&nbsp; Most of all, like minded people can organize together to bring change.&nbsp; People don&#039;t seem to realize the importance of this.&nbsp; This is how real change occurs in a large democracy.&nbsp; Rosa Parks didn&#039;t just decide to sit in the front of the bus one day, that was a coordinated move she made having already discussed and planned with the NAACP.&nbsp; I&#039;m not saying that major structural or bureaucratic problems have not arisen in the US, all I was originally saying is that they can be changed but citizens need to realize that you can&#039;t be so inactive about it.&nbsp; So to be explicit, ultimately I am claiming that the root problem in the United States is the people.&nbsp; 50% voting rates on a good year?&nbsp; Most people can name an American Idol judge but not a supreme court justice?&nbsp; More Americans supported the war in iraq than can point iraq out on a map?&nbsp; I mean, I get so sick of hearing people ***** about the government when most of them couldn&#039;t even name their own congressional representatives.&nbsp; I also&nbsp; have to add that i completely reject that last vague conspiratorial sentence you threw in there.</p></blockquote><p></p>

[QUOTE="perfecxionX, post: 7251727, member: 572854"] It sounds like you are only speaking to the ability of the average person to run for office. At the end of the day representatives are elected by the people and the people can vote many different ways, they are not limited to dem or rep. Most of all, like minded people can organize together to bring change. People don't seem to realize the importance of this. This is how real change occurs in a large democracy. Rosa Parks didn't just decide to sit in the front of the bus one day, that was a coordinated move she made having already discussed and planned with the NAACP. I'm not saying that major structural or bureaucratic problems have not arisen in the US, all I was originally saying is that they can be changed but citizens need to realize that you can't be so inactive about it. So to be explicit, ultimately I am claiming that the root problem in the United States is the people. 50% voting rates on a good year? Most people can name an American Idol judge but not a supreme court justice? More Americans supported the war in iraq than can point iraq out on a map? I mean, I get so sick of hearing people ***** about the government when most of them couldn't even name their own congressional representatives. I also have to add that i completely reject that last vague conspiratorial sentence you threw in there. [/QUOTE]

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