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<blockquote data-quote="keep_hope_alive" data-source="post: 8077039" data-attributes="member: 576029">the man problem that those dash speaker systems will encounter is stage width and imaging problems related to HRTF.&nbsp; there is very little shadowing happening with opposite ears.&nbsp; and yes, they lose sight of the corners which means you can expect to hit shyt when parking.&nbsp; really, the cars above were just not committed enough to cut the dash.&nbsp; //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif&nbsp; the second pic of the Sprinter Van is not a fair comparison, the amount of effort that went into those is staggering and worthy of the title &quot;the audio system no one would build&quot;.certainly, tweeter height is key to setting soundstage height.&nbsp; tweeter aiming determines both soundstage width and depth.&nbsp; i&#039;ve found a placement and aiming that allows for shadowing as well as minimizing reflections off the opposite window work well.&nbsp; sail panels are a bit low for my liking but have the right position for HRTF.dash mids are a tricky sort.&nbsp; i&#039;ve actually had success with them in the dash firing up with apillar tweeter spheres and door midbass.&nbsp; it worked very well and would make most people very happy.&nbsp; the mids are stealth after a grill is added and the spheres just confuse people.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="keep_hope_alive, post: 8077039, member: 576029"] the man problem that those dash speaker systems will encounter is stage width and imaging problems related to HRTF. there is very little shadowing happening with opposite ears. and yes, they lose sight of the corners which means you can expect to hit shyt when parking. really, the cars above were just not committed enough to cut the dash. [IMG]//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif[/IMG] the second pic of the Sprinter Van is not a fair comparison, the amount of effort that went into those is staggering and worthy of the title "the audio system no one would build". certainly, tweeter height is key to setting soundstage height. tweeter aiming determines both soundstage width and depth. i've found a placement and aiming that allows for shadowing as well as minimizing reflections off the opposite window work well. sail panels are a bit low for my liking but have the right position for HRTF. dash mids are a tricky sort. i've actually had success with them in the dash firing up with apillar tweeter spheres and door midbass. it worked very well and would make most people very happy. the mids are stealth after a grill is added and the spheres just confuse people. [/QUOTE]

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