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Message: <blockquote data-quote="unrealii" data-source="post: 680418" data-attributes="member: 554599">I like the clean look of my 8454...and I dont have an opinion on the new ones because I dont think the pics show enough detail.  Although these new designs may not be everyone's cup of tea, I am sure that performancewise, they pick up from where the 04's left off and will be stellar.  I've seen many posts all over the place that many buy eclipse for the performance and dont care about looks, so I dont know where all the hate is coming from.  In the past it was either sq or dolphins...now you can have sq with dolphins...eclipse is just doing what any other business would do and go after that market open market.just my $0.03</blockquote>

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