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<blockquote data-quote="hispls" data-source="post: 8530089" data-attributes="member: 614752"><p>Fuses are used to prevent fire in event of catastrophic failure. Do you honestly believe that the fusing supplied with most amps will actually protect the amp?</p><p></p><p></p><p>The only measurements in that article were from the absolute worst amp they could find with THD of 3% and Damping factor of 3 (and likely frequency response issues as well) vs some 7500$ Denon. The point of "you can't hear the difference" flies out the window if you chose something that's that terrible. I'd wager that even the cheapest modern amp coming out of China doesn't have those problems. They cookie cutter decent designs, if a bit antiquated.</p><p></p><p></p><p>No, you don't "try to teach", you throw out fancy sounding words that you read in somebody's marketing literature to confuse people who don't actually know what those terms mean. Again, barring the most extreme examples of poor design damping factor is a non issue. This can be proven with mathematics <a href="http://www.audioholics.com/audio-amplifier/damping-factor-effects-on-system-response" target="_blank">Damping Factor: Effects On System Response | Audioholics</a></p><p></p><p></p><p>There is absolutely no science there. I did not see any waveforms pictured which are changed somehow by silver capacitors or whatever other unicorn tears or fairy dust you believe is going to fool the electrons into sounding better. Their only credible examples of people being able to hear the difference was obvious frequency response issues (which could easily be fixed with EQ and honestly anybody who thinks they can hear the difference will be using EQ anyway), extreme low damping factor, THD, or behavior when clipping.</p><p></p><p>I think you'd be hard pressed to find any amp built today for retail sale that has damping factor of 3 or over 3% THD at unclipped output levels.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="hispls, post: 8530089, member: 614752"] Fuses are used to prevent fire in event of catastrophic failure. Do you honestly believe that the fusing supplied with most amps will actually protect the amp? The only measurements in that article were from the absolute worst amp they could find with THD of 3% and Damping factor of 3 (and likely frequency response issues as well) vs some 7500$ Denon. The point of "you can't hear the difference" flies out the window if you chose something that's that terrible. I'd wager that even the cheapest modern amp coming out of China doesn't have those problems. They cookie cutter decent designs, if a bit antiquated. No, you don't "try to teach", you throw out fancy sounding words that you read in somebody's marketing literature to confuse people who don't actually know what those terms mean. Again, barring the most extreme examples of poor design damping factor is a non issue. This can be proven with mathematics [URL="http://www.audioholics.com/audio-amplifier/damping-factor-effects-on-system-response"]Damping Factor: Effects On System Response | Audioholics[/URL] There is absolutely no science there. I did not see any waveforms pictured which are changed somehow by silver capacitors or whatever other unicorn tears or fairy dust you believe is going to fool the electrons into sounding better. Their only credible examples of people being able to hear the difference was obvious frequency response issues (which could easily be fixed with EQ and honestly anybody who thinks they can hear the difference will be using EQ anyway), extreme low damping factor, THD, or behavior when clipping. I think you'd be hard pressed to find any amp built today for retail sale that has damping factor of 3 or over 3% THD at unclipped output levels. [/QUOTE]
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