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<blockquote data-quote="helotaxi" data-source="post: 350602" data-attributes="member: 550915">$400 broke down this way:$125 for the US Acoustics 4065 from sounddomain.com (I&#039;ll cover this in a sec)$150 for the CDT CL-61a at the Zeb. ( the paint is not quite right on these and they are $60 cheaper for the same speakers.)$85 for the 12Kx from Edesigns.add about $30 for shipping.You don&#039;t need the Image Enhancement kit (you can always add it later if you want)If you have any woodworking skills or know somone who does, the box is really easy to build.&nbsp; Materials will run about $30.Wiring kit from Walmart: $20Speaker wire $10Fiberglass resin, mat and fleece $30Total: $480 with most everything you need for the installAdd some if you don&#039;t want to do the work yourself.&nbsp; Most shops will insist you get wire from them if they do the install.&nbsp; I have also seen shops that will not install equipment that they didn&#039;t sell or charge extra to do so.&nbsp; The only part of your install that will even be marginally challenging would be the kickpanels and if you know anybody that is good with their hands, get them to help and buy them lunch for their trouble.Like I said earlier, you do not need a ton of power on a sub.&nbsp; One more time for the hard of hearing around here, you do not need at ton of power on a sub!&nbsp; Back in the day you couldn&#039;t afford big amps on a budget.&nbsp; The majority of people that post a lot on here don&#039;t remember the days when 150 watts a channel cost $600 plus dollars.&nbsp; $1 a watt was considered cheap.&nbsp; I have amps right now that were $10 per watt when they were new.&nbsp; Were subs underpowered back then?&nbsp; Ummm, no...&nbsp; Efficiency was one of the most important aspects of a sub then because a ton of power was just not available.&nbsp; My first system had one 2 channel amp running everything.&nbsp; It was 30 watts per channel and I got a great deal at the time at only $200.&nbsp; I used it to run a front component set and a single 10&quot; sub.&nbsp; The sub was getting ~120 watts and it got more than loud enough to be easily heard outside the car.&nbsp; The Kx is made for lower power applications.&nbsp; It is made to make the most out of amplifier power.&nbsp; Min recommended is 50 watts according to the eD site for a 1.0cf sealed box.&nbsp; 160 watts will be about 5dB louder than 50 watts.&nbsp; At normal listening levels the sub will only really be getting about 40 watts anyway.&nbsp; Any more than that is wasted power.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="helotaxi, post: 350602, member: 550915"] $400 broke down this way: $125 for the US Acoustics 4065 from sounddomain.com (I'll cover this in a sec) $150 for the CDT CL-61a at the Zeb. ( the paint is not quite right on these and they are $60 cheaper for the same speakers.) $85 for the 12Kx from Edesigns. add about $30 for shipping. You don't need the Image Enhancement kit (you can always add it later if you want) If you have any woodworking skills or know somone who does, the box is really easy to build. Materials will run about $30. Wiring kit from Walmart: $20 Speaker wire $10 Fiberglass resin, mat and fleece $30 Total: $480 with most everything you need for the install Add some if you don't want to do the work yourself. Most shops will insist you get wire from them if they do the install. I have also seen shops that will not install equipment that they didn't sell or charge extra to do so. The only part of your install that will even be marginally challenging would be the kickpanels and if you know anybody that is good with their hands, get them to help and buy them lunch for their trouble. Like I said earlier, you do not need a ton of power on a sub. One more time for the hard of hearing around here, you do not need at ton of power on a sub! Back in the day you couldn't afford big amps on a budget. The majority of people that post a lot on here don't remember the days when 150 watts a channel cost $600 plus dollars. $1 a watt was considered cheap. I have amps right now that were $10 per watt when they were new. Were subs underpowered back then? Ummm, no... Efficiency was one of the most important aspects of a sub then because a ton of power was just not available. My first system had one 2 channel amp running everything. It was 30 watts per channel and I got a great deal at the time at only $200. I used it to run a front component set and a single 10" sub. The sub was getting ~120 watts and it got more than loud enough to be easily heard outside the car. The Kx is made for lower power applications. It is made to make the most out of amplifier power. Min recommended is 50 watts according to the eD site for a 1.0cf sealed box. 160 watts will be about 5dB louder than 50 watts. At normal listening levels the sub will only really be getting about 40 watts anyway. Any more than that is wasted power. [/QUOTE]

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