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<blockquote data-quote="Gauntlet" data-source="post: 3437618" data-attributes="member: 545529"><p>Most of it is inaccurate, the probability of an OiNK user (especially those in the U.S.) being targeted is slim to none, for many reasons.</p><p></p><p>1) The two-year investigation did not involve the RIAA whatsoever.</p><p></p><p>2) These bumbledicks that did the investigating got almost everything wrong. The admin did not make money (I'd be surprised if he broke even on a consistent basis), donations were not mandatory, and you did not have to prove you could upload to get access. And OiNK did not specialize in pre-release music, they actually banned most of these uploads because they were horrible quality/webrips. If they can't even get basic facts (all of which would potentially be the lynchpins of their case if it goes to trial) about the site right in two years, what are the chances of them successfully targeting users?</p><p></p><p>3) OiNK did not log IPs with snatches, creating serious evidentiary problems in terms of proving copyright infringement of RIAA material. Best-case scenario is that they could prove you downloaded <em>something</em>, but it'd be impossible to prove what you actually downloaded.</p><p></p><p>4) There's still really not much precedence/case law on this issue, and trying to start with OiNK would be completely counterproductive to their goal. Their ace in the hole was shutting down The Pirate Bay and that blew up in their faces...trying to do the same with OiNK would result in the exact same outcome.</p><p></p><p>5) This whole thing really just screams of a scare tactic. They invited the BBC along for the raid (red flag, anyone?), and the IFPI put up the same 1990 style warning on the homepage (which, by the way, they don't have the authority to do) that they put up on every torrent site they shut down. And nothing has come from any of those raids except Elitetorrents, and the only reason there were legal repercussions there is because the site was based in the US and the MPAA forced the FBI's hands to do something.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Gauntlet, post: 3437618, member: 545529"] Most of it is inaccurate, the probability of an OiNK user (especially those in the U.S.) being targeted is slim to none, for many reasons. 1) The two-year investigation did not involve the RIAA whatsoever. 2) These bumbledicks that did the investigating got almost everything wrong. The admin did not make money (I'd be surprised if he broke even on a consistent basis), donations were not mandatory, and you did not have to prove you could upload to get access. And OiNK did not specialize in pre-release music, they actually banned most of these uploads because they were horrible quality/webrips. If they can't even get basic facts (all of which would potentially be the lynchpins of their case if it goes to trial) about the site right in two years, what are the chances of them successfully targeting users? 3) OiNK did not log IPs with snatches, creating serious evidentiary problems in terms of proving copyright infringement of RIAA material. Best-case scenario is that they could prove you downloaded [I]something[/I], but it'd be impossible to prove what you actually downloaded. 4) There's still really not much precedence/case law on this issue, and trying to start with OiNK would be completely counterproductive to their goal. Their ace in the hole was shutting down The Pirate Bay and that blew up in their faces...trying to do the same with OiNK would result in the exact same outcome. 5) This whole thing really just screams of a scare tactic. They invited the BBC along for the raid (red flag, anyone?), and the IFPI put up the same 1990 style warning on the homepage (which, by the way, they don't have the authority to do) that they put up on every torrent site they shut down. And nothing has come from any of those raids except Elitetorrents, and the only reason there were legal repercussions there is because the site was based in the US and the MPAA forced the FBI's hands to do something. [/QUOTE]
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