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<blockquote data-quote="audioholic" data-source="post: 2790917" data-attributes="member: 549629"><p>You have to ask yourself, if you are already having a hard time hearing your front speakers over your sub, why are you looking to upgrade (double) your substage already? //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif Yeah, I already know... the fever. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif</p><p></p><p>Well assuming the fronts are already well positioned and powered, it sounds like running a 3-way might be what you need. Sell the 12's and get some dedicated midbass drivers as I suggested earlier. Run them from like 60 or 80hz up to 200-300hz. Then your 6.5 comp mids kick in. This does multiple things...</p><p></p><p>Firt, it gives more midbass, alot more. Bigger driver, with considerably more displacement potential, playing a relatively narrow frequency band. Assuming its done correctly, midbass should be phenomenal, at least.</p><p></p><p>Second benefit this does is increase output ability of comp set (usually). When you run the midbass up to the 200-300hz, you can now cut off the comp mids at 200-300hz rather than the 100hz you had before. Expecting less bass output means more power input, and acoustical output potential, before the driver will fail. This is generally speaking, and the tweeter comes into play, as its freq band has not changed. Increasing power on the mids should be done while closely monitoring the tweeter performance.</p><p></p><p>There are downsides hwoever of course. Mounting dedicated midbass' means (usually) moving the comp mids to the kick to avoid complications with the midbass drivers. This usually means custom work. Next, two more amplifier channels are required since you would be running active. Which brings us to the last big disadvantage, a more complicated crossover network that usually involves a new component as most h/u's dont have the capacity.</p><p></p><p>Running a 3-way setup can be very rewarding, but it can also be very costly and tricky. Which brings us to the last major reward of a 3-way system: rarity. There are alot of people out there running multiple front speaker setups and claiming its a 3-way... or more (one guy bragged to me about his 7-way front stage a while back). //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif Truth is unless some very basic, but many times difficult steps, are taken to ensure good performance... things like proper speaker placement and a competent xo network... the real performance gains simply wont be there.</p><p></p><p>..... or you could go to BestBuy and have them slap as many comp sets in your doors as will possibly fit.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="audioholic, post: 2790917, member: 549629"] You have to ask yourself, if you are already having a hard time hearing your front speakers over your sub, why are you looking to upgrade (double) your substage already? [IMG]//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif[/IMG] Yeah, I already know... the fever. [IMG]//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif[/IMG] Well assuming the fronts are already well positioned and powered, it sounds like running a 3-way might be what you need. Sell the 12's and get some dedicated midbass drivers as I suggested earlier. Run them from like 60 or 80hz up to 200-300hz. Then your 6.5 comp mids kick in. This does multiple things... Firt, it gives more midbass, alot more. Bigger driver, with considerably more displacement potential, playing a relatively narrow frequency band. Assuming its done correctly, midbass should be phenomenal, at least. Second benefit this does is increase output ability of comp set (usually). When you run the midbass up to the 200-300hz, you can now cut off the comp mids at 200-300hz rather than the 100hz you had before. Expecting less bass output means more power input, and acoustical output potential, before the driver will fail. This is generally speaking, and the tweeter comes into play, as its freq band has not changed. Increasing power on the mids should be done while closely monitoring the tweeter performance. There are downsides hwoever of course. Mounting dedicated midbass' means (usually) moving the comp mids to the kick to avoid complications with the midbass drivers. This usually means custom work. Next, two more amplifier channels are required since you would be running active. Which brings us to the last big disadvantage, a more complicated crossover network that usually involves a new component as most h/u's dont have the capacity. Running a 3-way setup can be very rewarding, but it can also be very costly and tricky. Which brings us to the last major reward of a 3-way system: rarity. There are alot of people out there running multiple front speaker setups and claiming its a 3-way... or more (one guy bragged to me about his 7-way front stage a while back). [IMG]//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif[/IMG] Truth is unless some very basic, but many times difficult steps, are taken to ensure good performance... things like proper speaker placement and a competent xo network... the real performance gains simply wont be there. ..... or you could go to BestBuy and have them slap as many comp sets in your doors as will possibly fit. [/QUOTE]
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