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<blockquote data-quote="Lasherž" data-source="post: 8704241" data-attributes="member: 679555"><p>Yeah, I understand that Ebay does have key words that if they weren't misused would yield reliably good products it just hasn't been the case for me so far that people are capable of labeling their products as the correct one and in some cases it's not even possible to label them correctly. Like for example, if I order a product that's factory refurbished and it worked great for a year, but now I want to upgrade. Should I use the used label or the factory refurbished label on that product? Used means it could have wear and tear, but factory refurbished means that it has been opened and potentially soldered on the inside. Which is more important to understanding the condition of it? Both in my opinion.</p><p></p><p>My original comment should have prefaced it saying that it should be from the manufacturer's pages to mean it's safe, I also could have added reputable authorized retailers. Unauthorized and "factory refurbished" is a red flag and I wish that it wasn't but I've been burned many times. It doesn't help that manufacturers often don't allow schematics to unauthorized repair, but it is what it is. What I saw in my ebay experiences was people modifying traces to get less resistance, swapping 30a fuses for 40a fuses in a melted fuse holder slot, giant regulators put in place where small ones used to go so their leads are squeezed together, unshrunk heatshrink sliding up and down a bare bodge wire as the product moves around, and precision measuring equipment which had its potentiometers rotated. All of these products were sold under the label, "manufacturer refurbished" or "used". There are ways to buy manufacturer refurbished without getting shanked, but it's from brands who have a reputation to uphold.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Lasherž, post: 8704241, member: 679555"] Yeah, I understand that Ebay does have key words that if they weren't misused would yield reliably good products it just hasn't been the case for me so far that people are capable of labeling their products as the correct one and in some cases it's not even possible to label them correctly. Like for example, if I order a product that's factory refurbished and it worked great for a year, but now I want to upgrade. Should I use the used label or the factory refurbished label on that product? Used means it could have wear and tear, but factory refurbished means that it has been opened and potentially soldered on the inside. Which is more important to understanding the condition of it? Both in my opinion. My original comment should have prefaced it saying that it should be from the manufacturer's pages to mean it's safe, I also could have added reputable authorized retailers. Unauthorized and "factory refurbished" is a red flag and I wish that it wasn't but I've been burned many times. It doesn't help that manufacturers often don't allow schematics to unauthorized repair, but it is what it is. What I saw in my ebay experiences was people modifying traces to get less resistance, swapping 30a fuses for 40a fuses in a melted fuse holder slot, giant regulators put in place where small ones used to go so their leads are squeezed together, unshrunk heatshrink sliding up and down a bare bodge wire as the product moves around, and precision measuring equipment which had its potentiometers rotated. All of these products were sold under the label, "manufacturer refurbished" or "used". There are ways to buy manufacturer refurbished without getting shanked, but it's from brands who have a reputation to uphold. [/QUOTE]
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