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Message: <blockquote data-quote="trumpet" data-source="post: 8306590" data-attributes="member: 628688">That's a standard excuse that is probably said at least once every day. "They don't make them that way anymore". I don't feel that you need to stay with Pioneer, it's just a suggestion because you already have that brand in your vehicle. I don't know exactly which Pioneer car audio products you can get in your area, but I'm using the new TS-W3003D4 Champion Pro 12". I don't push my subwoofers as hard as most people, but it's doing very well for me in my system. I think it may get you the kind of sound you want a lot more than a burp box subwoofer.Dynamat and similar materials will not do anything to make a subwoofer kick harder. That will make it sound better, but the energy is still getting wasted by the resonances of your body panels.</blockquote>

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