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<blockquote data-quote="Prowler573" data-source="post: 1464538" data-attributes="member: 561023"><p>As I read through this thread one post really stood out from all the others to me:</p><p></p><p>Well! This was really, really helpful to someone just trying to learn about aftermarket car audio...thanks for that!</p><p></p><p>When they start selling American Bass gear at Wal-Mart please do let me know. I'm no expert on their gear so haven't a clue who makes them but I <em>do</em> know they aren't cheap crap built to appeal to the masses akin to Legacy, Pyle, etc....</p><p></p><p>The same statement could potentially be made about any sub on the market including your obvious preference Resonant Engineering. Depending on the particular application, the desired results, the available power, the specific enclosure, blah blah blah there might potentially <strong>always</strong> be a better option than what you've gone with. If the man wants JL then let him use JL. Are there subs that are just as good or better for the same or less money? Possibly. Are there many, many options available that would be much, much worse? Absolutely there are.</p><p></p><p>Rockford Fosgate, like anyone else, is in the business to make money. Corporate bottom lines are what stockholders care about. So to bolster overall sales figures at the end of the year Fosgate (like any other smart company) makes mainstream, average gear that appeals to people more out of name recognition rather than actual performance. But to counter your generalization that Fosgates amps **** in general and don't put out poop for power I have to ask - seen any of the Power-series amps recently? Every birthsheet I have ever seen on a late-model Power-series Fosgate amp shows the amp to do considerably more than rated power. No one that I have known who owned one ever had a single operational issue with it. And as far as "don't put out poop for power" is concerned...... <a href="http://www.crutchfield.com/S-AV90jNh6fUo/cgi-bin/ProdView.asp?g=120&amp;I=575T3001BD&amp;search=fosgate" target="_blank">3kW @ 1 Ohm</a>, anyone?</p><p>Does the OEM Nissan head unit in the car now afford you with all the features you'd like? If it is suitable for what you're wanting it to do then by all means keep it and save the money! If you're looking for things like: multiple band equalizers, built-in crossover networks, dedicated subwoofer outputs/controls, customizable displays, etc etc etc then likely an aftermarket HU would be your best bet.</p><p></p><p>Get what you want and compliments the rest of the system well. You can go buy X, Y, or Zed-brand sub that is capable of doing *orgasmic* levels of output...that doesn't necessarily mean you have to set it up to provide said level of output constantly. You'll see/read a recurring mantra if you stay around awhile: "install dependant" And so, so many things are. Get whatever kind of sub you want in whatever size you prefer and then implement it into the overall setup to where it blends well without taking over.</p><p>See above //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif It's all in how the sub gets setup whether or not its presence will be known without being annoying or whether or not all you get is bass while the front stage struggles to keep up. There is no rule which states your gear <em>has</em> to be run at full tilt everytime you turn it on. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif</p><p>Solid choice on an amp. If you end up with a Dual 2 Ohm subwoofer (which can be parallel wired to a 1 Ohm load) you can feed it 400 watts out of the MCH600's sub output //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Prowler573, post: 1464538, member: 561023"] As I read through this thread one post really stood out from all the others to me: Well! This was really, really helpful to someone just trying to learn about aftermarket car audio...thanks for that! When they start selling American Bass gear at Wal-Mart please do let me know. I'm no expert on their gear so haven't a clue who makes them but I [I]do[/I] know they aren't cheap crap built to appeal to the masses akin to Legacy, Pyle, etc.... The same statement could potentially be made about any sub on the market including your obvious preference Resonant Engineering. Depending on the particular application, the desired results, the available power, the specific enclosure, blah blah blah there might potentially [B]always[/B] be a better option than what you've gone with. If the man wants JL then let him use JL. Are there subs that are just as good or better for the same or less money? Possibly. Are there many, many options available that would be much, much worse? Absolutely there are. Rockford Fosgate, like anyone else, is in the business to make money. Corporate bottom lines are what stockholders care about. So to bolster overall sales figures at the end of the year Fosgate (like any other smart company) makes mainstream, average gear that appeals to people more out of name recognition rather than actual performance. But to counter your generalization that Fosgates amps **** in general and don't put out poop for power I have to ask - seen any of the Power-series amps recently? Every birthsheet I have ever seen on a late-model Power-series Fosgate amp shows the amp to do considerably more than rated power. No one that I have known who owned one ever had a single operational issue with it. And as far as "don't put out poop for power" is concerned...... [URL="http://www.crutchfield.com/S-AV90jNh6fUo/cgi-bin/ProdView.asp?g=120&I=575T3001BD&search=fosgate"]3kW @ 1 Ohm[/URL], anyone? Does the OEM Nissan head unit in the car now afford you with all the features you'd like? If it is suitable for what you're wanting it to do then by all means keep it and save the money! If you're looking for things like: multiple band equalizers, built-in crossover networks, dedicated subwoofer outputs/controls, customizable displays, etc etc etc then likely an aftermarket HU would be your best bet. Get what you want and compliments the rest of the system well. You can go buy X, Y, or Zed-brand sub that is capable of doing *orgasmic* levels of output...that doesn't necessarily mean you have to set it up to provide said level of output constantly. You'll see/read a recurring mantra if you stay around awhile: "install dependant" And so, so many things are. Get whatever kind of sub you want in whatever size you prefer and then implement it into the overall setup to where it blends well without taking over. See above [IMG]//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif[/IMG] It's all in how the sub gets setup whether or not its presence will be known without being annoying or whether or not all you get is bass while the front stage struggles to keep up. There is no rule which states your gear [I]has[/I] to be run at full tilt everytime you turn it on. [IMG]//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif[/IMG] Solid choice on an amp. If you end up with a Dual 2 Ohm subwoofer (which can be parallel wired to a 1 Ohm load) you can feed it 400 watts out of the MCH600's sub output [IMG]//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif[/IMG] [/QUOTE]
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