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<blockquote data-quote="Plutoman" data-source="post: 6283964" data-attributes="member: 601528"><p>Well, let's address this. With a good electrical, what is the cap needed for? The battery can provide those minute surges so long as it isn't beyond the capacity of the battery to provide. You aren't going to exceed those limits.</p><p></p><p>If the voltage is solid already (which it does not need a cap for), it won't have line spikes.</p><p></p><p>I'm an SQ guy. You aren't talking to a bass head. If I was a bass head, I wouldn't be running a single IB subwoofer, on 250 watts.</p><p></p><p>Now, you are misunderstanding what I've said. If you are going to argue a point, PLEASE make sure you understand it correctly. And please, PLEASE, don't start making assumptions about who you are talking to. Because you have an overinflated ego of what you know, that does not mean you are automatically superior, and can afford to skim over what some other guy's opinions are and count them wrong. Stop assuming what you learned from someone else twenty years ago is automatically correct. You're also assuming I'm guessing. I honestly don't care where you've been or where you've claimed to have been. I'm currently studying my degree in electrical engineering, myself.</p><p></p><p>In addition, the OP also pointing out that opening up the trunk into the cabin did absolutely nothing. Point in case? Obviously there's something wrong with your advice. It does not mean that there isn't enough air. That argument fell through, along with most of what validity you hold.</p><p></p><p>I never said a capacitor supplies voltage. It balances it to a steadier voltage. They act as filters, but not in a power line here - it can be used as a filter in certain occasions, and quite frequently is, but in the actual run of power, a capacitor is wasted when the battery can provide an equivalent voltage without any extreme stress. The caps take in the voltage, charge, and then release it as needed when overdrawn. However, this also produces a lower overall voltage. When you start running through rock beats, the power stored inside is released in the first one. Repeated beats afterwards are suffering now from the battery being forced to not only supply them but recharge the capacitor.</p><p></p><p>As the charging curve is exponential, it takes much longer to charge than release. It creates a drain on the battery. Now, for these micro bursts you say it is needed for, the battery can provide the power. It doesn't need the assistance of the capacitor, the amperage on the batteries is more than enough for any reasonable setup.</p><p></p><p>A cap can be used in certain occasions when you need to keep the voltage above a certain level in high powered applications, or if you need to filter out engine noise in other applications. A proper use is filtering out any extraneous noise in the signal wires.</p><p></p><p>However, this is not where it is needed. It may work, but that is a long way from needing it. It won't provide any noticeable benefit to a system in the application you've said.</p><p></p><p>As for the OP, the Phoenix Gold component set is going to be good for you. It's cheap, and much better than other sets at that price.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Plutoman, post: 6283964, member: 601528"] Well, let's address this. With a good electrical, what is the cap needed for? The battery can provide those minute surges so long as it isn't beyond the capacity of the battery to provide. You aren't going to exceed those limits. If the voltage is solid already (which it does not need a cap for), it won't have line spikes. I'm an SQ guy. You aren't talking to a bass head. If I was a bass head, I wouldn't be running a single IB subwoofer, on 250 watts. Now, you are misunderstanding what I've said. If you are going to argue a point, PLEASE make sure you understand it correctly. And please, PLEASE, don't start making assumptions about who you are talking to. Because you have an overinflated ego of what you know, that does not mean you are automatically superior, and can afford to skim over what some other guy's opinions are and count them wrong. Stop assuming what you learned from someone else twenty years ago is automatically correct. You're also assuming I'm guessing. I honestly don't care where you've been or where you've claimed to have been. I'm currently studying my degree in electrical engineering, myself. In addition, the OP also pointing out that opening up the trunk into the cabin did absolutely nothing. Point in case? Obviously there's something wrong with your advice. It does not mean that there isn't enough air. That argument fell through, along with most of what validity you hold. I never said a capacitor supplies voltage. It balances it to a steadier voltage. They act as filters, but not in a power line here - it can be used as a filter in certain occasions, and quite frequently is, but in the actual run of power, a capacitor is wasted when the battery can provide an equivalent voltage without any extreme stress. The caps take in the voltage, charge, and then release it as needed when overdrawn. However, this also produces a lower overall voltage. When you start running through rock beats, the power stored inside is released in the first one. Repeated beats afterwards are suffering now from the battery being forced to not only supply them but recharge the capacitor. As the charging curve is exponential, it takes much longer to charge than release. It creates a drain on the battery. Now, for these micro bursts you say it is needed for, the battery can provide the power. It doesn't need the assistance of the capacitor, the amperage on the batteries is more than enough for any reasonable setup. A cap can be used in certain occasions when you need to keep the voltage above a certain level in high powered applications, or if you need to filter out engine noise in other applications. A proper use is filtering out any extraneous noise in the signal wires. However, this is not where it is needed. It may work, but that is a long way from needing it. It won't provide any noticeable benefit to a system in the application you've said. As for the OP, the Phoenix Gold component set is going to be good for you. It's cheap, and much better than other sets at that price. [/QUOTE]
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