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<blockquote data-quote="pisto" data-source="post: 8923320" data-attributes="member: 694672"><p><span style="font-size: 18px">OK folks. Thanks for having me and I am enjoying learning here and checking out other folks' builds. </span></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px">Hal, tell me about my set up and why it seems my gains are so low with a lot of distortion.</span></p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><span style="font-size: 18px">4 gauge Rockford Fosgate dual amp install kit.</span><br /> <br /> </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><span style="font-size: 18px">Kicker 51PTRTP12 Sub</span><br /> <br /> </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><span style="font-size: 18px">Older Alpine Type R 5 1/4" components SPR-50C </span><br /> <br /> </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><span style="font-size: 18px">Tweeters in the top dash mounts stealth install. </span></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><span style="font-size: 18px">-8db on the tweeters immediately! They are blowing me away!!!!</span><br /> <br /> </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><span style="font-size: 18px">SONY XEC-700 ACTIVE CROSSOVER NETWORK </span><br /> <br /> </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><span style="font-size: 18px">Pioneer DEH-W3050NEX</span></li> </ul><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px"><strong>OK, so I just want to note what I'm seeing as compared to my older set up in the old Ford Ranger!!!</strong></span></p><p></p><p>I HATE DISTORTED MIDS. But, I LIKE MY MIDS LOUUUUDDDDD!!!! Crunchy riffs from van halen and metallica!!!!</p><p></p><p>So I started out with my OSCILLOSCOPE!!! And the wave form out of the Pioneer!!! And it was clean all the way up Flat EQ no processing!!!</p><p>After it hit the SONY it got distorted!!! Pioneer was hittin it too hard so when I backed off it cleaned up!! Now I max out at 35/40 volume!!!!</p><p></p><p>I IMMEDIATELY set crossover on the SONY all the way to 140/160 whatever it's highest setting for the LITTLE TYPE R'S!!! They need protection from the lower frequencies! But I noticed bad distortion when at higher volumes!!! I stopped bridging the Kicker and went to single amp two channel! I wanted maximum power but I toned it down to get a good baseline! I also ADDED low frequency crossover/filter on the Kicker 4 channel mids/highs to help protect the Type R's more. I cranked it all the way to 200hz! My question is does anyone else double up on crossovers like me????? It seems like what I have to do to get clean mids out of my tiny woofers. How else am I gonna get max wattage out of these tough little speakers without really filtering out the low frequencies?????</p><p></p><p>Now! I always try to let my subs pick up the higher end of the frequency range to fill out the music! But, in this set up it is WAY TOO BOOMY! I think that is because of the type of sub set up and the cab of the Xterra! You are sitting in a giant tube!!! So, I'm going to have to push the LPF down on the Sony to pull out everything above maybe 80hz!!!!</p><p></p><p>I gotta reset the GAIN on the sub because it is soooo boomy!!!! I am still setting the level on this thing because I can't seem to have everything wide open yet and in balance!</p><p></p><p>Any tips would be appreciated! I'm just a dude doin my best! I probably need some bigger components but I need help squeeze everything out of those Type Rs. I think those speakers can handle big volume.</p><p></p><p>It's still a little messy as I get things settled!!!!</p><p></p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]71576[/ATTACH][ATTACH=full]71577[/ATTACH][ATTACH=full]71578[/ATTACH][ATTACH=full]71579[/ATTACH][ATTACH=full]71580[/ATTACH][ATTACH=full]71581[/ATTACH]</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="pisto, post: 8923320, member: 694672"] [SIZE=5]OK folks. Thanks for having me and I am enjoying learning here and checking out other folks' builds. Hal, tell me about my set up and why it seems my gains are so low with a lot of distortion.[/SIZE] [LIST] [*][SIZE=5]4 gauge Rockford Fosgate dual amp install kit.[/SIZE] [*][SIZE=5]Kicker 51PTRTP12 Sub[/SIZE] [*][SIZE=5]Older Alpine Type R 5 1/4" components SPR-50C [/SIZE] [*][SIZE=5]Tweeters in the top dash mounts stealth install. [/SIZE] [*][SIZE=5]-8db on the tweeters immediately! They are blowing me away!!!![/SIZE] [*][SIZE=5]SONY XEC-700 ACTIVE CROSSOVER NETWORK [/SIZE] [*][SIZE=5]Pioneer DEH-W3050NEX[/SIZE] [/LIST] [SIZE=5][B]OK, so I just want to note what I'm seeing as compared to my older set up in the old Ford Ranger!!![/B][/SIZE] I HATE DISTORTED MIDS. But, I LIKE MY MIDS LOUUUUDDDDD!!!! Crunchy riffs from van halen and metallica!!!! So I started out with my OSCILLOSCOPE!!! And the wave form out of the Pioneer!!! And it was clean all the way up Flat EQ no processing!!! After it hit the SONY it got distorted!!! Pioneer was hittin it too hard so when I backed off it cleaned up!! Now I max out at 35/40 volume!!!! I IMMEDIATELY set crossover on the SONY all the way to 140/160 whatever it's highest setting for the LITTLE TYPE R'S!!! They need protection from the lower frequencies! But I noticed bad distortion when at higher volumes!!! I stopped bridging the Kicker and went to single amp two channel! I wanted maximum power but I toned it down to get a good baseline! I also ADDED low frequency crossover/filter on the Kicker 4 channel mids/highs to help protect the Type R's more. I cranked it all the way to 200hz! My question is does anyone else double up on crossovers like me????? It seems like what I have to do to get clean mids out of my tiny woofers. How else am I gonna get max wattage out of these tough little speakers without really filtering out the low frequencies????? Now! I always try to let my subs pick up the higher end of the frequency range to fill out the music! But, in this set up it is WAY TOO BOOMY! I think that is because of the type of sub set up and the cab of the Xterra! You are sitting in a giant tube!!! So, I'm going to have to push the LPF down on the Sony to pull out everything above maybe 80hz!!!! I gotta reset the GAIN on the sub because it is soooo boomy!!!! I am still setting the level on this thing because I can't seem to have everything wide open yet and in balance! Any tips would be appreciated! I'm just a dude doin my best! I probably need some bigger components but I need help squeeze everything out of those Type Rs. I think those speakers can handle big volume. It's still a little messy as I get things settled!!!! [ATTACH type="full" alt="IMG_2288.JPEG"]71576[/ATTACH][ATTACH type="full" alt="IMG_2289.JPEG"]71577[/ATTACH][ATTACH type="full" alt="IMG_2290.JPEG"]71578[/ATTACH][ATTACH type="full" alt="IMG_2292.JPEG"]71579[/ATTACH][ATTACH type="full" alt="IMG_2293.JPEG"]71580[/ATTACH][ATTACH type="full" alt="IMG_2294.JPEG"]71581[/ATTACH] [/QUOTE]
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