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<blockquote data-quote="NDMstang65" data-source="post: 5419487" data-attributes="member: 544576">I&#039;ve had more xbl^2 subs then I can even remember man. I bought, all of them figuring ok well maybe it was just the Brahma that I did not like. Got the XXX, didn&#039;t like that. Got one of the Blue Print 1203&#039;s, didn&#039;t like that either. There is something about the sound that it re produces that I do not like. The original LMS woofer that I had in my hands was a quad stack 3hp derivative. 10mm wide gap, 3&quot; winding length on the coil, Inductance was in the 8-9 henry range and caused it to take a nose dive around the 55Hz range (here&#039;s a hint for you bose301s 8-9Henry&#039;s = 55Hz). Nope, there isn&#039;t an overhung driver that will do it. I will agree. I&#039;m not saying that taking an approach to linear bl is pointless. It&#039;s a fantastic idea and some people will eat it up. The fact is that the technology is very young, until you change the curve and represent this technology as to how something &#039;should&#039; sound...your fighting an uphill battle. You&#039;ll never win me over with respect to xbl/lms. Sorry...my brain is not programmed for them. I&#039;ve gave them a shot, I personally, with my ears, do not like either one of them.Sure! I&#039;m not flying to Canada though //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif. You should be able to tell me the perceived difference and which one you like the best with respect to SGLC, Split Coil, LMS, and XBL^2 right? Hell, we&#039;ll even throw in a WGTi in the mix to make sure we&#039;re&nbsp; well rounded.If you want to do that your going to have to do some MAJOR code writing for a program to be observed in an anechoic chamber. Also will have to write a program to observe the linearity of the cone assembly with accelerometers, to determine when the speaker is un-linear, therefore distorted...and really see if the mic array around the human test subject will take note that the signal is distorted,&nbsp; and see if the human test subject even heard&nbsp; it...or found it displeasing.At the end of the day..it isn&#039;t worth it //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif.If it is the vehicle and setup that the judge likes the most, and it has none of the technology listed above in it..and assuming that other vehicles had the technology in it..didn&#039;t you just prove my argument that perception, and how one&nbsp; hears the sound and defines whether they like what they are hearing or not?&nbsp; //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gifGratsi.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="NDMstang65, post: 5419487, member: 544576"] I've had more xbl^2 subs then I can even remember man. I bought, all of them figuring ok well maybe it was just the Brahma that I did not like. Got the XXX, didn't like that. Got one of the Blue Print 1203's, didn't like that either. There is something about the sound that it re produces that I do not like. The original LMS woofer that I had in my hands was a quad stack 3hp derivative. 10mm wide gap, 3" winding length on the coil, Inductance was in the 8-9 henry range and caused it to take a nose dive around the 55Hz range (here's a hint for you bose301s 8-9Henry's = 55Hz). Nope, there isn't an overhung driver that will do it. I will agree. I'm not saying that taking an approach to linear bl is pointless. It's a fantastic idea and some people will eat it up. The fact is that the technology is very young, until you change the curve and represent this technology as to how something 'should' sound...your fighting an uphill battle. You'll never win me over with respect to xbl/lms. Sorry...my brain is not programmed for them. I've gave them a shot, I personally, with my ears, do not like either one of them. Sure! I'm not flying to Canada though [IMG]//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif[/IMG]. You should be able to tell me the perceived difference and which one you like the best with respect to SGLC, Split Coil, LMS, and XBL^2 right? Hell, we'll even throw in a WGTi in the mix to make sure we're well rounded. If you want to do that your going to have to do some MAJOR code writing for a program to be observed in an anechoic chamber. Also will have to write a program to observe the linearity of the cone assembly with accelerometers, to determine when the speaker is un-linear, therefore distorted...and really see if the mic array around the human test subject will take note that the signal is distorted, and see if the human test subject even heard it...or found it displeasing. At the end of the day..it isn't worth it [IMG]//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif[/IMG][IMG]//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif[/IMG]. If it is the vehicle and setup that the judge likes the most, and it has none of the technology listed above in it..and assuming that other vehicles had the technology in it..didn't you just prove my argument that perception, and how one hears the sound and defines whether they like what they are hearing or not? [IMG]//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif[/IMG] Gratsi. [/QUOTE]

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