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<blockquote data-quote="zako" data-source="post: 7831581" data-attributes="member: 629735"><p>If you want to run active, you need a head unit (or external DSP) with active crossover such as Pioneer DEH-80PRS or Alpine CDA-117. This is worth every dollar. Personally, I would have preferred to have a head unit with time alignment coupled with a set of higher quality coaxial speakers, than run components without time alignment or fine level matching between tweeter and woofer. It seems like the mainstream car audio hasn't caught up with time alignment, but for me it's a big step in SQ IMO, and does things you won't get out of $500 speakers without it.</p><p></p><p>In this case, it looks like the head unit you got has neither active crossover or time alignment. So you can't run active. You can still bi-amp speakers. To do bi-amping, you need a tweeter crossover that's effectively separate from the woofer. I believe Alpine's latest Type-R speakers have this arrangement. The tweeter portion of the crossover is in a separate box, and can be disconnected from the woofer if necessary. These had been out since 2010/2011 or so and I haven't heard of many good reviews of these SPR-60C speakers though. Some mid-priced MB Quart and RF speakers have bi-amp crossovers, but I don't really know why I would want to buy them, considering something like the new JBL MS speakers have much better reviews. I am running a similar bi-amp setup with Hybrid Audio Imagine I61-2 speakers, with tweeter connected directly to the amplifier with a single inline 2.2uF capacitor active as tweeter's high pass filter. This works well because the components were designed to function this way (the crossover on the back of woofer uses the same capacitor). The whole point of going active is to have full control of every speaker, so you can adjust crossover setup, equalization, levels, and time alignment for each speaker in the car. So there is no big benefit in going active if you don't have a processor to accomplish these things. Only matching level of tweeter and woofer is something you can do without an advanced processor.</p><p></p><p>BTW Amazon sells the DSX-S310BTX for only $189 and sonicelectronix has it for similar price. I never had problems with returns with either vendor.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="zako, post: 7831581, member: 629735"] If you want to run active, you need a head unit (or external DSP) with active crossover such as Pioneer DEH-80PRS or Alpine CDA-117. This is worth every dollar. Personally, I would have preferred to have a head unit with time alignment coupled with a set of higher quality coaxial speakers, than run components without time alignment or fine level matching between tweeter and woofer. It seems like the mainstream car audio hasn't caught up with time alignment, but for me it's a big step in SQ IMO, and does things you won't get out of $500 speakers without it. In this case, it looks like the head unit you got has neither active crossover or time alignment. So you can't run active. You can still bi-amp speakers. To do bi-amping, you need a tweeter crossover that's effectively separate from the woofer. I believe Alpine's latest Type-R speakers have this arrangement. The tweeter portion of the crossover is in a separate box, and can be disconnected from the woofer if necessary. These had been out since 2010/2011 or so and I haven't heard of many good reviews of these SPR-60C speakers though. Some mid-priced MB Quart and RF speakers have bi-amp crossovers, but I don't really know why I would want to buy them, considering something like the new JBL MS speakers have much better reviews. I am running a similar bi-amp setup with Hybrid Audio Imagine I61-2 speakers, with tweeter connected directly to the amplifier with a single inline 2.2uF capacitor active as tweeter's high pass filter. This works well because the components were designed to function this way (the crossover on the back of woofer uses the same capacitor). The whole point of going active is to have full control of every speaker, so you can adjust crossover setup, equalization, levels, and time alignment for each speaker in the car. So there is no big benefit in going active if you don't have a processor to accomplish these things. Only matching level of tweeter and woofer is something you can do without an advanced processor. BTW Amazon sells the DSX-S310BTX for only $189 and sonicelectronix has it for similar price. I never had problems with returns with either vendor. [/QUOTE]
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