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<blockquote data-quote="Steven206Seattl" data-source="post: 4899385" data-attributes="member: 569558">Honda motors are far from junk!&nbsp; The only engine that ever was bad was the B21a1 because the cylinder walls were real thin.The B series was already so advanced in the 90&#039;s.&nbsp; The B16&#039;s may only make 160-170 stock but that is in a light car and factory tuned.&nbsp; They&#039;re easy to make even more powerful and are easy to build.Honda engines were made for fuel economy but when you have the K Series, B Series and H series you get the economy of a honda eninge plus a sports car engine.&nbsp; They added the 3rd lobe on the camshaft that isn&#039;t in use the whole time for gas mileage but once you pass a set rpm and the 3rd lobe starts to move making two rocker arms one big one.I don&#039;t see how a real dependable engine that can put out so much power and get good gas mileage can be junk.&nbsp; Almost all honda engines past 200,000 easy.As for my car getting stolen, I&#039;m not gonna let the fear of thieves decide what cars I drive.&nbsp; I have some security things done to my car nobody knows about.&nbsp; I would much rather drive a car and have an engine I want and have to deal with the possibility of my car getting stolen than driving a minivan or some old car.Thanks though, and I&#039;m not putting a turbo on.&nbsp; I&#039;m all about all motor</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Steven206Seattl, post: 4899385, member: 569558"] Honda motors are far from junk! The only engine that ever was bad was the B21a1 because the cylinder walls were real thin. The B series was already so advanced in the 90's. The B16's may only make 160-170 stock but that is in a light car and factory tuned. They're easy to make even more powerful and are easy to build. Honda engines were made for fuel economy but when you have the K Series, B Series and H series you get the economy of a honda eninge plus a sports car engine. They added the 3rd lobe on the camshaft that isn't in use the whole time for gas mileage but once you pass a set rpm and the 3rd lobe starts to move making two rocker arms one big one. I don't see how a real dependable engine that can put out so much power and get good gas mileage can be junk. Almost all honda engines past 200,000 easy. As for my car getting stolen, I'm not gonna let the fear of thieves decide what cars I drive. I have some security things done to my car nobody knows about. I would much rather drive a car and have an engine I want and have to deal with the possibility of my car getting stolen than driving a minivan or some old car. Thanks though, and I'm not putting a turbo on. I'm all about all motor [/QUOTE]

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