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<blockquote data-quote="xtremebassjunky" data-source="post: 2458805" data-attributes="member: 567703">install is the biggest &quot;x&quot; factor....face it...as mentioned right above, a sq sub will not give good sq if it&#039;s in a crappy box... same for spl drivers....thats why some of the people here have wangin systems and others with similar setups don&#039;t get loud...check this link....it&#039;s a great examlple...200w with a pair of 8&quot;s for CHRISTS SAKE....and it wangs...138dB of amazing-ness... with DD 1008&#039;s the cheapest subs they make that are like $100<a href="http://s19.photobucket.com/albums/b194/rich1034/?action=view&amp;amp;current=138db.flv" target="_blank"><img src="http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b194/rich1034/th_138db.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></a>there are misconceptions yes that they can any old sub and make it sound great... yes...BUT... also that they need to spend even more money on a better (aka higher end) speaker to get that balance of sql that they wanted...which is BS as well...there is no way that you can say that the speaker is the determinant factor... when i have heard pure sh!t come out of w7&#039;s and heard kicker comps that sounded better... and i am sure that you have noticed this,xtreme</blockquote>

[QUOTE="xtremebassjunky, post: 2458805, member: 567703"] install is the biggest "x" factor....face it... as mentioned right above, a sq sub will not give good sq if it's in a crappy box... same for spl drivers.... thats why some of the people here have wangin systems and others with similar setups don't get loud... check this link....it's a great examlple... 200w with a pair of 8"s for CHRISTS SAKE....and it wangs...138dB of amazing-ness... with DD 1008's the cheapest subs they make that are like $100 [URL="http://s19.photobucket.com/albums/b194/rich1034/?action=view&current=138db.flv"][IMG]http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b194/rich1034/th_138db.jpg[/IMG][/URL] there are misconceptions yes that they can any old sub and make it sound great... yes... BUT... also that they need to spend even more money on a better (aka higher end) speaker to get that balance of sql that they wanted...which is BS as well... there is no way that you can say that the speaker is the determinant factor... when i have heard pure sh!t come out of w7's and heard kicker comps that sounded better... and i am sure that you have noticed this, xtreme [/QUOTE]

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