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Midbass problem. Doors are the culprit?
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<blockquote data-quote="sjv13" data-source="post: 8207777" data-attributes="member: 632245"><p>[quote name='T3mpest']Once you put the doorskin, that entire space is still acting as an enclosure. However, it&#39;s probably not helping the way it is now, does your speaker have a vented pole piece on the bottom? If so then yes, you def need a inch or two of space behind it, if it&#39;s a closed basket, not as much. Your closed cell foam baffle is likely not a great seal though. I&#39;d try and build some wooden ones, if you can&#39;t do it yourself, your shop said they would. </p><p></p><p>Next thing to PLEASE realize, is 50hz is not midbass. Your moms speakers may put out more "bass" becuase they probably aren&#39;t crossed over. That is NOT midbass and never will be. Snares can be midbass, but there is treble in that region too. Good midbass is not subbass from your mids. If you want that, you&#39;ll basically always be disappointed.</p></blockquote><p></p><p>What do you mean when you say, "Once you put the doorskin, that entire space is still acting as an enclosure"?</p><p></p><p>Also, I&#39;m not trying to get subbass from my door speakers. I&#39;m just saying that even when I run them with a HPF at 50hz, they don&#39;t put out much of any midbass still (or subbass, but I don&#39;t really expect that to happen anyways). For some reason it&#39;s just hard for me to grasp that stock speakers running off of HU power can put out a fuller freq. range than aftermarket speakers on an amp when both are run full range (or pretty close to full range, at a 50hz hpf in my case).</p><p></p><p>Here is a good picture of the back of my speakers: <a href="http://www.top-elektronik.at/images/product_images/original_images/actindo_focal_integration_is165.jpg" target="_blank">http://www.top-elektronik.at/images/product_images/original_images/actindo_focal_integration_is165.jpg</a></p><p></p><p>I know the foam isn&#39;t a very good baffle, but it is a decent seal (of course not as good as an mdf baffle, but still pretty decent). </p><p> </p><p> [USER=650055]@bradl79[/USER]; yes, I have a sub. Alpine type r 12 on 500w. </p><p></p><p>I find that I get more of the midbass kick I&#39;m looking for when I let the sub play a little higher, with everything xover&#39;d at 100hz. But that point, localization starts to occur.</p><p>[/QUOTE]</p>
[QUOTE="sjv13, post: 8207777, member: 632245"] [quote name='T3mpest']Once you put the doorskin, that entire space is still acting as an enclosure. However, it's probably not helping the way it is now, does your speaker have a vented pole piece on the bottom? If so then yes, you def need a inch or two of space behind it, if it's a closed basket, not as much. Your closed cell foam baffle is likely not a great seal though. I'd try and build some wooden ones, if you can't do it yourself, your shop said they would. Next thing to PLEASE realize, is 50hz is not midbass. Your moms speakers may put out more "bass" becuase they probably aren't crossed over. That is NOT midbass and never will be. Snares can be midbass, but there is treble in that region too. Good midbass is not subbass from your mids. If you want that, you'll basically always be disappointed.[/QUOTE] What do you mean when you say, "Once you put the doorskin, that entire space is still acting as an enclosure"? Also, I'm not trying to get subbass from my door speakers. I'm just saying that even when I run them with a HPF at 50hz, they don't put out much of any midbass still (or subbass, but I don't really expect that to happen anyways). For some reason it's just hard for me to grasp that stock speakers running off of HU power can put out a fuller freq. range than aftermarket speakers on an amp when both are run full range (or pretty close to full range, at a 50hz hpf in my case). Here is a good picture of the back of my speakers: [URL="http://www.top-elektronik.at/images/product_images/original_images/actindo_focal_integration_is165.jpg"]http://www.top-elektronik.at/images/product_images/original_images/actindo_focal_integration_is165.jpg[/URL] I know the foam isn't a very good baffle, but it is a decent seal (of course not as good as an mdf baffle, but still pretty decent). [USER=650055]@bradl79[/USER]; yes, I have a sub. Alpine type r 12 on 500w. I find that I get more of the midbass kick I'm looking for when I let the sub play a little higher, with everything xover'd at 100hz. But that point, localization starts to occur. [/QUOTE]
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