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Message: <blockquote data-quote="audioholic" data-source="post: 7091959" data-attributes="member: 549629">I realize killing your grandmother is a higher crime than animal cruelty, which is why I asked how good a player he'd need to be to allow that (worse) crime.Im not even really an 'animal lover'. I just think someone who would torture animals over extended periods of time shows a mental disturbance. Im not even arguing all people who commit a crime of animal cruelty deserve no second chance. Ive asked multiple times now for examples of things Vick has done, voluntarily, to show he's rehabilitated. Nobody has given a single example yet.</blockquote>

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