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<blockquote data-quote="audioholic" data-source="post: 7091867" data-attributes="member: 549629">And my point was, plenty of people work just as hard, or harder, and dont end up with a career that makes them millions and millions of dollars every year. But my original point wasn&#039;t even about the money, it was about the fame, and the repercussions it has on society. With fame comes responsibility. Vick stopped dog fighting because he was CAUGHT. Vick went to jail because he was FORCED to. What&#039;s he done, voluntarily, to show he&#039;s changed? What&#039;s he done, voluntarily, to show kids they are idolizing a decent person? Seriously, what? If he&#039;s donated to charities, or done much more than the bare minimum to get back to his former glory, Ive not heard about it. Maybe Im just out of the loop, and he&#039;s donating a sizable amount of his wealth, to the SPCA. Has he? Has he gone around to schools and talked to kids about the lessons they can learn from his mistakes? Has he done anything beyond basically &#039;laying low till the anger dies down&#039;?But again, the NFL has more responsibility to keep their league stocked with honest, decent, law abiding citizens, than does any one individual in that league.My comment on having things &#039;handed to him&#039; was probably poor wording on my part, because its spawned this side argument on how hard NFL players work, that was unintended. Do I think professional athletes make more money than their effort justifies, in comparison to the rest of us. Yes, they obviously do. But I did not intend to imply they dont work hard. I guess I over estimated some members here understanding that I realize pro athletes actually work at their career. How hard they work, Im not really interested in debating with you.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="audioholic, post: 7091867, member: 549629"] And my point was, plenty of people work just as hard, or harder, and dont end up with a career that makes them millions and millions of dollars every year. But my original point wasn't even about the money, it was about the fame, and the repercussions it has on society. With fame comes responsibility. Vick stopped dog fighting because he was CAUGHT. Vick went to jail because he was FORCED to. What's he done, voluntarily, to show he's changed? What's he done, voluntarily, to show kids they are idolizing a decent person? Seriously, what? If he's donated to charities, or done much more than the bare minimum to get back to his former glory, Ive not heard about it. Maybe Im just out of the loop, and he's donating a sizable amount of his wealth, to the SPCA. Has he? Has he gone around to schools and talked to kids about the lessons they can learn from his mistakes? Has he done anything beyond basically 'laying low till the anger dies down'? But again, the NFL has more responsibility to keep their league stocked with honest, decent, law abiding citizens, than does any one individual in that league. My comment on having things 'handed to him' was probably poor wording on my part, because its spawned this side argument on how hard NFL players work, that was unintended. Do I think professional athletes make more money than their effort justifies, in comparison to the rest of us. Yes, they obviously do. But I did not intend to imply they dont work hard. I guess I over estimated some members here understanding that I realize pro athletes actually work at their career. How hard they work, Im not really interested in debating with you. [/QUOTE]

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