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Message: <blockquote data-quote="guy022077" data-source="post: 1539398" data-attributes="member: 560481"><p>i wont say that you are wrong but i will say when i replaced those memphis,with some crystal somethings, those speakers they had more kick then the memphis did. so i dont think it was my install. I did most of the stuff that a post you pointed out said to do. (with the some damp,molding clay etc.... but noone ever does think its their install do they? i just hope the orions p6.2 sound better. i only offered my opinion in this case because i had the same car he does.  however no,you cant blame poor setup on the speakers. i heard the diamonds in a passat and they were awesome off of HU power so i would say they have to be good off of amp power. I am getting the orions because they are cheaper</p></blockquote><p></p>

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