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<blockquote data-quote="hispls" data-source="post: 8578713" data-attributes="member: 614752"><p>So put a 500W amp on a Nightshade, BTL, TRF, Evil, etc. and try to break it. The ONLY way you burn coils is by putting in heat (power) faster than it can cool = too much power. Someone around here has a signature line of a quote by Audioholic that says it quite well.</p><p></p><p>Plenty of folks who may or may not even have a vague understanding of how AC power works, particularly impedance and the dynamic nature of music run a "2000W" amp into a "1000W" rated sub and come up with some theory about why their sub doesn't break (typically involving some magic unicorn tears used by whatever brand sub making it handle so much more power). What's actually happening is that their sub never really sees that much power, or if it does not for long enough to heat the coil more than it can shed that heat.</p><p></p><p>The big issue I have is suggesting to the rookie that has no clue whatsoever to put himself in a situation where he may well break things. If your logic is "he will want it louder and set the gains too high" if he has an amp that is "too small" why on Earth would you think the same person would not want louder still if he had double that size amp and still set the gains too high, or simply find the right song where the amp actually makes rated power into his speakers for prolonged period of time?</p><p></p><p>My issue is people who don't really know what's going on giving bad advice to people who definitely haven't the first clue what's going on... though again, if you want to put your money where your mouth is, offer to warranty his equipment if he buys an amp that'll make double the power that his sub can handle.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Again why would you assume that someone who is inexperienced enough to over-drive his amp at 500W trying to get louder won't do the same at 1000W? Why do you have 30,000W ? I'm quite confident you didn't just jump in at that power level but wanted more and more (but knew the correct way to go about it)... the point is, we almost all invariably want more and want to feel what that next click on the volume knob would be like.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Sage advice, but those are drying up fast. I very much regret never owning 5400 when the pre-Audiopulse ones were more readily available.</p><p></p><p></p><p>This is very true, I wouldn't even try to get loud (bass) out of a Toyota trunk; focus on sounding good with strong midbass and highs would be a far easier goal.</p><p></p><p></p><p>DD 95 and IA 10.1 would be really nice (assuming your box will fit in his trunk). This is all miles ahead of the gear anybody else has mentioned in performance, reliability, and resale value AND saving shipping if you guys can meet local.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="hispls, post: 8578713, member: 614752"] So put a 500W amp on a Nightshade, BTL, TRF, Evil, etc. and try to break it. The ONLY way you burn coils is by putting in heat (power) faster than it can cool = too much power. Someone around here has a signature line of a quote by Audioholic that says it quite well. Plenty of folks who may or may not even have a vague understanding of how AC power works, particularly impedance and the dynamic nature of music run a "2000W" amp into a "1000W" rated sub and come up with some theory about why their sub doesn't break (typically involving some magic unicorn tears used by whatever brand sub making it handle so much more power). What's actually happening is that their sub never really sees that much power, or if it does not for long enough to heat the coil more than it can shed that heat. The big issue I have is suggesting to the rookie that has no clue whatsoever to put himself in a situation where he may well break things. If your logic is "he will want it louder and set the gains too high" if he has an amp that is "too small" why on Earth would you think the same person would not want louder still if he had double that size amp and still set the gains too high, or simply find the right song where the amp actually makes rated power into his speakers for prolonged period of time? My issue is people who don't really know what's going on giving bad advice to people who definitely haven't the first clue what's going on... though again, if you want to put your money where your mouth is, offer to warranty his equipment if he buys an amp that'll make double the power that his sub can handle. Again why would you assume that someone who is inexperienced enough to over-drive his amp at 500W trying to get louder won't do the same at 1000W? Why do you have 30,000W ? I'm quite confident you didn't just jump in at that power level but wanted more and more (but knew the correct way to go about it)... the point is, we almost all invariably want more and want to feel what that next click on the volume knob would be like. Sage advice, but those are drying up fast. I very much regret never owning 5400 when the pre-Audiopulse ones were more readily available. This is very true, I wouldn't even try to get loud (bass) out of a Toyota trunk; focus on sounding good with strong midbass and highs would be a far easier goal. DD 95 and IA 10.1 would be really nice (assuming your box will fit in his trunk). This is all miles ahead of the gear anybody else has mentioned in performance, reliability, and resale value AND saving shipping if you guys can meet local. [/QUOTE]
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