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<blockquote data-quote="stubbs563" data-source="post: 7017269" data-attributes="member: 626422">Thats the est. price for a 15&quot; havoc. I think i googled &quot;new price for 15&quot; havoc&quot; and saw that somewhere, i think it is close at least if not right around there. I have heard a Bl before and it sounds awsome, gets LOUD enough to shake my chest and make breathing hard and in the box/eclosure it was in it sounds like it has alot of control, sort of like a louder version of my SSD, because surprisingly it had alot of sq for being a known budget SPL sub.I dont think im going to go with the HCD3 though.I am trying to get that chest shaking bass with pretty good quality but that may be un-realistic off of 1200rms and a stock charging system. But it sounds liekthe Q or the Havoc are pretty nice, Does anyone have an opinion on the IconAlso, this 15&quot; will be going into a 4.5 cuft 32-33 hz box in a 98 passat if you were wondering what kinda box i was using</blockquote>

[QUOTE="stubbs563, post: 7017269, member: 626422"] Thats the est. price for a 15" havoc. I think i googled "new price for 15" havoc" and saw that somewhere, i think it is close at least if not right around there. I have heard a Bl before and it sounds awsome, gets LOUD enough to shake my chest and make breathing hard and in the box/eclosure it was in it sounds like it has alot of control, sort of like a louder version of my SSD, because surprisingly it had alot of sq for being a known budget SPL sub. I dont think im going to go with the HCD3 though. I am trying to get that chest shaking bass with pretty good quality but that may be un-realistic off of 1200rms and a stock charging system. But it sounds liek the Q or the Havoc are pretty nice, Does anyone have an opinion on the Icon Also, this 15" will be going into a 4.5 cuft 32-33 hz box in a 98 passat if you were wondering what kinda box i was using [/QUOTE]

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