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<blockquote data-quote="ciaonzo" data-source="post: 8642804" data-attributes="member: 607015"><p>Of course I know the difference between free-air and IB. Do you see many folks hanging drivers from strings inside the vehicle? C'mon, stop with the obvious stuff and give people a little credit. You're not the only person to discover the importance of installation and the convenience of DSP. But you are one of those guys who thinks DSP is a free meal ticket, a magic bullet that fixes everything without causing any issues similar to the physics involved with passive elements. Bro, I'm miles ahead of you. I've long stopped doing all the things your are just now stumbling upon and touting as your own discoveries. I owned RTAs when they were the big bulky things that you carried around in a bag. I achieved the +/- 1dB flat line in '95 and said, "what's next?". That was easy and boring and no one listens to that curve, we all prefer something similar to the Fletcher-Munson for actual listening. I'm well past all of that easy s<span style="color: navy">hit</span>, I'm into much deeper rabbit holes now like making my own drivers and you couldn't begin to keep up because your ego limits you to where you are now. I'm the guy who doesn't compete because he doesn't need the validation from others. It's hilarious to me that you can't see how ignorant you are. </p><p>Here's a free tip for you, know-it-all. It is imperative that you EQ every single driver, in the completed install, <strong>before</strong> you apply crossovers and level adjustment (unless by some Christmas fu<span style="color: navy">c</span>king miracle it measures perfectly flat right where you installed it, and I've never in my life seen that happen). If you don't, it will be pure luck (or very clever planning) that you are able to achieve your target slope. Get every driver to play flat to 2-3 octaves outside your planned cross point, do this and when you actually apply your filters (any slope you wish!, or that the driver will tolerate) you will achieve a better phase coherency between your drivers than ever before. But wait! That requires more than one stage of EQ, you're confused! I know your limited little mind is rejecting that approach, but that's you. Your way is the only way, right? And here's a f<span style="color: navy">uc</span>king link to help open your eyes to the fact that you can absolutely EQ a driver to achieve a target Q and that low Q drivers are a desired choice for good damping and overall flexibility. Go fu<span style="color: navy">c</span>king read something, actually read it, and stop addressing me with your watered down, regurgitated t-shirt wisdom. I don't need tips from you.</p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.musicanddesign.com/Gradient_woofer_eq.html" target="_blank">Gradient woofeer equalization</a></p><p></p><p>Read the fourth post in this thread. --&gt; <a href="http://www.diysubwoofers.org/cgi-bin/talkrec.cgi?submit=lt&amp;fid=f1&amp;msg_num=32761" target="_blank">Lower Qtc for closed enclosure subwoofer - List Thread</a></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ciaonzo, post: 8642804, member: 607015"] Of course I know the difference between free-air and IB. Do you see many folks hanging drivers from strings inside the vehicle? C'mon, stop with the obvious stuff and give people a little credit. You're not the only person to discover the importance of installation and the convenience of DSP. But you are one of those guys who thinks DSP is a free meal ticket, a magic bullet that fixes everything without causing any issues similar to the physics involved with passive elements. Bro, I'm miles ahead of you. I've long stopped doing all the things your are just now stumbling upon and touting as your own discoveries. I owned RTAs when they were the big bulky things that you carried around in a bag. I achieved the +/- 1dB flat line in '95 and said, "what's next?". That was easy and boring and no one listens to that curve, we all prefer something similar to the Fletcher-Munson for actual listening. I'm well past all of that easy s[COLOR=navy]hit[/COLOR], I'm into much deeper rabbit holes now like making my own drivers and you couldn't begin to keep up because your ego limits you to where you are now. I'm the guy who doesn't compete because he doesn't need the validation from others. It's hilarious to me that you can't see how ignorant you are. Here's a free tip for you, know-it-all. It is imperative that you EQ every single driver, in the completed install, [B]before[/B] you apply crossovers and level adjustment (unless by some Christmas fu[COLOR=navy]c[/COLOR]king miracle it measures perfectly flat right where you installed it, and I've never in my life seen that happen). If you don't, it will be pure luck (or very clever planning) that you are able to achieve your target slope. Get every driver to play flat to 2-3 octaves outside your planned cross point, do this and when you actually apply your filters (any slope you wish!, or that the driver will tolerate) you will achieve a better phase coherency between your drivers than ever before. But wait! That requires more than one stage of EQ, you're confused! I know your limited little mind is rejecting that approach, but that's you. Your way is the only way, right? And here's a f[COLOR=navy]uc[/COLOR]king link to help open your eyes to the fact that you can absolutely EQ a driver to achieve a target Q and that low Q drivers are a desired choice for good damping and overall flexibility. Go fu[COLOR=navy]c[/COLOR]king read something, actually read it, and stop addressing me with your watered down, regurgitated t-shirt wisdom. I don't need tips from you. [URL="http://www.musicanddesign.com/Gradient_woofer_eq.html"]Gradient woofeer equalization[/URL] Read the fourth post in this thread. --> [URL="http://www.diysubwoofers.org/cgi-bin/talkrec.cgi?submit=lt&fid=f1&msg_num=32761"]Lower Qtc for closed enclosure subwoofer - List Thread[/URL] [/QUOTE]
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