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<blockquote data-quote="TaylorFade" data-source="post: 7764725" data-attributes="member: 618111">Ok... Argue then. How many $400+ subs have you used, tested, beat the snot out of? The 3512 blew them all out?My sources say $475ish if you were to just walk into a retailer.Now, let&#039;s examine some woofers you can get for $475ish. ONLY taking into account single 12&#039;s because you could buy way more cone with that much.DC XL? Hmm... huge forum boner. Gets lower, sounds better, takes more abuse, better soft parts. And I don&#039;t even like DC.Sundown Z v3 - Gets Low low. Abuseable rating through the roof. I&#039;ve seen FR graphs on par with LMS Ultra in a direct comaprisons. Customer service out the yin yang.ZCon? Fully beast. Will murder that 3512AudioQue HDC4. - 4&quot; coil. Monster daily and will get retarded in the lanes. Will make that 3512 it&#039;s bitch.I mean... the list goes on. I have a sub in my car right now from a company you&#039;ve never heard of that will beat that 3512 like a red headed step child.There&#039;s no arguing that DD is the loudest, most proven sub company (in the lanes) on the planet. I actually like DD, but I grew out of that phase when I tried other woofers. The 3512 is a fantastic sub. But IMO there is better... or at the VERY least, other options for the money and I wouldn&#039;t spend that much on it. You want a 3512? Get a damn HDC3 for half the price.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="TaylorFade, post: 7764725, member: 618111"] Ok... Argue then. How many $400+ subs have you used, tested, beat the snot out of? The 3512 blew them all out? My sources say $475ish if you were to just walk into a retailer. Now, let's examine some woofers you can get for $475ish. ONLY taking into account single 12's because you could buy way more cone with that much. DC XL? Hmm... huge forum b[COLOR=black]o[/COLOR]ner. Gets lower, sounds better, takes more abuse, better soft parts. And I don't even like DC. Sundown Z v3 - Gets Low low. Abuseable rating through the roof. I've seen FR graphs on par with LMS Ultra in a direct comaprisons. Customer service out the yin yang. ZCon? Fully beast. Will murder that 3512 AudioQue HDC[B]4[/B]. - 4" coil. Monster daily and will get retarded in the lanes. Will make that 3512 it's b[COLOR=black]it[/COLOR]ch. I mean... the list goes on. I have a sub in my car right now from a company you've never heard of that will beat that 3512 like a red headed step child. There's no arguing that DD is the loudest, most proven sub company (in the lanes) on the planet. I actually like DD, but I grew out of that phase when I tried other woofers. The 3512 is a fantastic sub. But IMO there is better... or at the VERY least, other options for the money and I wouldn't spend that much on it. You want a 3512? Get a da[COLOR=black]m[/COLOR]n HDC3 for half the price. [/QUOTE]

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