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Message: <blockquote data-quote="bigt" data-source="post: 2351780" data-attributes="member: 565182"><p>If you want to learn more I suggest the forum, bodybuildingdungeon.com. My opinion is that if your gunna spend money on that sh&amp;t just get the real shi*t because it will just have sides and hurt your kidney. If you do do roids start with some test, from what I read it is the best starter and it will get you gains. I also read all the time that you shuld have a 2-3 year jump start to lifting and eating well, most of getting bigger is in your form (how you lift) and calorie intake. Just my .2</p></blockquote><p></p>

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