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<blockquote data-quote="putergod" data-source="post: 6745753" data-attributes="member: 560757">So it&#039;s not the insanely erratic driving on the ice covered road that killed the guy, it was that sudden stop at the telephone pole. Putting that 45 up to someones head didn&#039;t kill them either... it was the brain exploding that killed them.See my point?And I already confessed to the user error in my post.Clipping is the &quot;cause&quot;. To repeatedly tell people that &quot;clipping doesn&#039;t hurt speakers&quot; is very unwise. Mr. Average Joe that has no background in electronics, at all, who just wants loud music, will buy speakers, and amplifiers, with similar ratings. This average joe is very likely to repeatedly drive his amps into clipping because &quot;it sounds louder&quot; and &quot;experts&quot; have told him &quot;clipping doesn&#039;t hurt speakers, only too much power will&quot;. He looks at his 500w subs, and 500w amps and think &quot;these subs can handle these amps, so I&#039;m good to go&quot;. And in short order, those subs will be blown.The only way one will ever drive an amp to rated, continuous, power, without clipping, is by playing straight tones at maximum unclipped power. On music (note I said music, as bass tracks are just a collection of tones with, possibly, some background music) you will never drive an amp to it&#039;s continuous rated power, without clipping.Any good quality speaker will be able to survive much higher power than they are rated, provided there is no clipping in the signal path going to them. I&#039;m not saying that they can handle an unlimited amount of power, that&#039;s just retarded and only a fool would say that. However, speaker manufactures (just like all other manufacturers) will, typically, err on the conservative side, knowing that Mr. Average Joe above will be buying their speakers.Simply put, the &quot;act of a clipped signal&quot; may not be what ultimately kills a speaker, but clipping amps on speaker DOES kill speakers. Just as driving like a fool on an ice covered road DOES kill people or shooting someone in the head DOES kill them.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="putergod, post: 6745753, member: 560757"] So it's not the insanely erratic driving on the ice covered road that killed the guy, it was that sudden stop at the telephone pole. Putting that 45 up to someones head didn't kill them either... it was the brain exploding that killed them. See my point? And I already confessed to the user error in my post. Clipping is the "cause". To repeatedly tell people that "clipping doesn't hurt speakers" is very unwise. Mr. Average Joe that has no background in electronics, at all, who just wants loud music, will buy speakers, and amplifiers, with similar ratings. This average joe is very likely to repeatedly drive his amps into clipping because "it sounds louder" and "experts" have told him "clipping doesn't hurt speakers, only too much power will". He looks at his 500w subs, and 500w amps and think "these subs can handle these amps, so I'm good to go". And in short order, those subs will be blown. The only way one will ever drive an amp to rated, continuous, power, without clipping, is by playing straight tones at maximum unclipped power. On music (note I said music, as bass tracks are just a collection of tones with, possibly, some background music) you will never drive an amp to it's continuous rated power, without clipping. Any good quality speaker will be able to survive much higher power than they are rated, provided there is no clipping in the signal path going to them. I'm not saying that they can handle an unlimited amount of power, that's just retarded and only a fool would say that. However, speaker manufactures (just like all other manufacturers) will, typically, err on the conservative side, knowing that Mr. Average Joe above will be buying their speakers. Simply put, the "act of a clipped signal" may not be what ultimately kills a speaker, but clipping amps on speaker DOES kill speakers. Just as driving like a fool on an ice covered road DOES kill people or shooting someone in the head DOES kill them. [/QUOTE]

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