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<blockquote data-quote="W8 a minute" data-source="post: 2716371" data-attributes="member: 570378">I&#039;ve had great luck with eBay Kicker refurbs. But then again I&#039;ve had great luck with new Kicker amps as well.Refurbs can be one of two things.A) Customer returns or B) new products that failed quality control before they left the factory.I used to work for St. Louis Music the manufacturer of Crate and Ampeg guitar amplifiers, sound reinforcement, etc.&nbsp; When a guitar amp is tested before boxing and shipping the only thing that was done was plugging a guitar into it, playing a few chords and placing a &quot;pass&quot; sticker on it.&nbsp; If it failed this test is was sent back to us where we ripped out the entire board and replaced it with a new one. Then we performed more then a dozen tests on it to ensure a quality product. Then, by law, it was sold as a refurb. IMHO I would almost rather have a refurb than one that happened to get lucky and squeek past the simple initial testing.If you work enough with Kicker products you&#039;ll notice that in almost every instance the refurbs have a lower wattage on the birth sheet than the &quot;new&quot; amplifiers do. I would bet this is due to more thorough and accurate testing.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="W8 a minute, post: 2716371, member: 570378"] I've had great luck with eBay Kicker refurbs. But then again I've had great luck with new Kicker amps as well. Refurbs can be one of two things. A) Customer returns or B) new products that failed quality control before they left the factory. I used to work for St. Louis Music the manufacturer of Crate and Ampeg guitar amplifiers, sound reinforcement, etc. When a guitar amp is tested before boxing and shipping the only thing that was done was plugging a guitar into it, playing a few chords and placing a "pass" sticker on it. If it failed this test is was sent back to us where we ripped out the entire board and replaced it with a new one. Then we performed more then a dozen tests on it to ensure a quality product. Then, by law, it was sold as a refurb. IMHO I would almost rather have a refurb than one that happened to get lucky and squeek past the simple initial testing. If you work enough with Kicker products you'll notice that in almost every instance the refurbs have a lower wattage on the birth sheet than the "new" amplifiers do. I would bet this is due to more thorough and accurate testing. [/QUOTE]

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