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<blockquote data-quote="helotaxi" data-source="post: 354195" data-attributes="member: 550915">Never had a complaint about mine not being loud enough, that&#039;s for sure.&nbsp; I was only running 133 each to them, too.&nbsp; Found the resonant frequency of my vocal chords one night.&nbsp; It hurt to talk for a week.&nbsp; I&#039;m not saying that they don&#039;t get loud enough for a sane person, they get plenty loud for most.&nbsp; It&#039;s these 1kW+ idiots that always trash on them cause they don&#039;t get as loud as other subs.&nbsp; I for one don&#039;t want or need that kind of power and I don&#039;t have any use for a sub that &quot;needs&quot; at least a kW to &quot;sound good.&quot;&nbsp; For most people it seems these days the quality of their bass is measurable in dBs.&nbsp; A lot of subs may give what they think is &quot;tight&quot; bass.&nbsp; They&#039;ve got no basis for comparison.&nbsp; They&#039;ve never heard &quot;tight&quot; bass.&nbsp; They&#039;ve never listened to an accurate system.&nbsp; The bass in the systems they heard was so loud that they felt the impact so it must be &quot;tight,&quot; right.&nbsp; Doesn&#039;t matter that you can&#039;t distinguish a bass guitar from a bassoon.Big amps are cheap these days so you must &quot;need&quot; a big amp for good sound.&nbsp; It doesn&#039;t matter that your 1.5kW beast is only really ever delivering *maybe* 400W RMS to your subs and then only for really short periods of time because your ears can&#039;t stand the high SPL and you have to turn it down.&nbsp; Either that or the subs are made with high power handling in mind so the suspension is so stiff that it takes 600W to get the sub to play audibly so that 1kW really is needed.&nbsp; You know who loves that kind of inefficiency?&nbsp; Alternator and battery manufacturers.Well you bassheads enjoy it while you can.&nbsp; While you can hear that is.&nbsp; I&#039;ll stick with my 133W per sub system and enjoy hearing all the music that you are missing.&nbsp; I will enjoy laughing at you while you pull your hair out trying to figure out how to get enough current to your power hungry sub and amp.&nbsp; Then I&#039;ll laugh even harder when you listen to my system and swear that I must have at least 1500 watts and I show you my cute little red amp rated at 400W into 1 ohm and my factory alternator and my efficient setup.&nbsp; If it isn&#039;t loud enough for you then you need to get your hearing checked.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="helotaxi, post: 354195, member: 550915"] Never had a complaint about mine not being loud enough, that's for sure. I was only running 133 each to them, too. Found the resonant frequency of my vocal chords one night. It hurt to talk for a week. I'm not saying that they don't get loud enough for a sane person, they get plenty loud for most. It's these 1kW+ idiots that always trash on them cause they don't get as loud as other subs. I for one don't want or need that kind of power and I don't have any use for a sub that "needs" at least a kW to "sound good." For most people it seems these days the quality of their bass is measurable in dBs. A lot of subs may give what they think is "tight" bass. They've got no basis for comparison. They've never heard "tight" bass. They've never listened to an accurate system. The bass in the systems they heard was so loud that they felt the impact so it must be "tight," right. Doesn't matter that you can't distinguish a bass guitar from a bassoon. Big amps are cheap these days so you must "need" a big amp for good sound. It doesn't matter that your 1.5kW beast is only really ever delivering *maybe* 400W RMS to your subs and then only for really short periods of time because your ears can't stand the high SPL and you have to turn it down. Either that or the subs are made with high power handling in mind so the suspension is so stiff that it takes 600W to get the sub to play audibly so that 1kW really is needed. You know who loves that kind of inefficiency? Alternator and battery manufacturers. Well you bassheads enjoy it while you can. While you can hear that is. I'll stick with my 133W per sub system and enjoy hearing all the music that you are missing. I will enjoy laughing at you while you pull your hair out trying to figure out how to get enough current to your power hungry sub and amp. Then I'll laugh even harder when you listen to my system and swear that I must have at least 1500 watts and I show you my cute little red amp rated at 400W into 1 ohm and my factory alternator and my efficient setup. If it isn't loud enough for you then you need to get your hearing checked. [/QUOTE]

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