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<blockquote data-quote="audioholic" data-source="post: 6946232" data-attributes="member: 549629"><p>Does this answer your question?</p><p></p><p></p><p>If you want to back peddle, that's fine. But dont pretend you didn't say things you did say.</p><p></p><p>And you still dont appear to understand the distinction. Science NEVER asks ANYONE to believe ANYTHING based on faith. Nope, not even 'theories'. Theories, as defined by science and scientists, is unproven. Unproven means 1) go prove it, or 2) go prove it wrong. Religion, yours and everyone elses, is based on an entirely different concept: faith. In other words, religion offers 'theories' that can never be proven, and demand you accept these theories (as fact) based on nothing more than faith.</p><p></p><p>You used the word 'faith' to describe believing in something that even science claims may or may not be true. You used the word 'religion' to describe following the principles of scientific verification. And now you want to know where I got the idea you are implying science is a religion? You didn't imply it, you flat out stated it, and attempted to reinforce your opinion with hopelessly flawed examples.</p><p></p><p>That all being said, Im glad to agree to disagree. I have no illusions Id change your mind, no matter how convincing my argument would be (or even no matter how true and verifiable). Im not trying to put down religion, God or even Faith. Truth is, I dont know if God exists or not. All I KNOW is what I can test, verify, and conclude myself. If you want to leave this at agree to disagree, Im more than happy to. I respect your faith and your choices, even if I dont agree with them. And I much prefer your approach of lets agree to disagree better than I do 6crnbnh's attitude of sarcasm and feigned outrage.</p><p></p><p>Cheers.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="audioholic, post: 6946232, member: 549629"] Does this answer your question? If you want to back peddle, that's fine. But dont pretend you didn't say things you did say. And you still dont appear to understand the distinction. Science NEVER asks ANYONE to believe ANYTHING based on faith. Nope, not even 'theories'. Theories, as defined by science and scientists, is unproven. Unproven means 1) go prove it, or 2) go prove it wrong. Religion, yours and everyone elses, is based on an entirely different concept: faith. In other words, religion offers 'theories' that can never be proven, and demand you accept these theories (as fact) based on nothing more than faith. You used the word 'faith' to describe believing in something that even science claims may or may not be true. You used the word 'religion' to describe following the principles of scientific verification. And now you want to know where I got the idea you are implying science is a religion? You didn't imply it, you flat out stated it, and attempted to reinforce your opinion with hopelessly flawed examples. That all being said, Im glad to agree to disagree. I have no illusions Id change your mind, no matter how convincing my argument would be (or even no matter how true and verifiable). Im not trying to put down religion, God or even Faith. Truth is, I dont know if God exists or not. All I KNOW is what I can test, verify, and conclude myself. If you want to leave this at agree to disagree, Im more than happy to. I respect your faith and your choices, even if I dont agree with them. And I much prefer your approach of lets agree to disagree better than I do 6crnbnh's attitude of sarcasm and feigned outrage. Cheers. [/QUOTE]
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