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<blockquote data-quote="MiniVanMan" data-source="post: 2789077" data-attributes="member: 573252"><p>No idea, actually. I understand that speakers "loosen up" after a while of playing, but I'm not convinced on any change in power handling or durability because of playing them at half power for a set amount of time. Anyway, I guess it never hurts, and I've been wrong before.</p><p></p><p>On to your other question, I tried really hard to suggest the LPGs, and they are a viable option. The guy at Madisound is correct in that they are designed for off-axis. Put those on-axis and they could tear your head off without some good EQ cutting on the top end. The big problem, and why I didn't suggest them is their Fs. It's rather high, and effectively only useable from about 3200 hz and above. I've heard of people getting 3000 hz with 24db slopes out of them, but that's risky, and not applicable in your situation. If you had picked the CA15, then the LPGs would have been my first suggestion. The CA18/LPG combo is a very tried and true combo that sounds fantastic. Typical CA problem though is that midrange dynamics are a bit low.</p><p></p><p>Now, if the guy at Madisound is confident that the L15 can handle 3000 hz, off-axis, then the LPG is a great option. With that cone breakup, though, at 8000 hz, that's going to be a tough sell for me.</p><p></p><p>Anyway, from the pictures it didn't look like the A-pillar locations were that much off-axis. If you said you wanted the CA15, then the LPG would be my first suggestion. If you changed your mind to the CA15, in order to use the LPG, you would in no way be wrong. The MDT 12, though, offers a bit lower response, and as long as it's not 60 degrees off-axis then sounds very nice, and will mate with the L15 a bit better.</p><p></p><p>I guess I never did ask what kind of tweeter you prefer. The MDT 12 is a very laid back airy tweeter, with good detail. It's a typical Morel sounding tweeter. The LPG is very bright and sparkly. Detail is superb, and they are great off-axis. Both have compromises and neither are the perfect tweeter for every situation. The best price to performance tweeter IMO is the Seas Neo. That tweeter is the best compromise of performance, ability, and cost. It's pretty big though for a small format, and would have been my first choice to couple with the L15, but it doesn't look like it would fit in your a-pillars.</p><p></p><p>Here's a link if you want to check it out and take some measurements.</p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.madisound.com/cgi-bin/index.cgi?cart_id=4132415.16845&amp;pid=2138" target="_blank">http://www.madisound.com/cgi-bin/index.cgi?cart_id=4132415.16845&amp;pid=2138</a></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MiniVanMan, post: 2789077, member: 573252"] No idea, actually. I understand that speakers "loosen up" after a while of playing, but I'm not convinced on any change in power handling or durability because of playing them at half power for a set amount of time. Anyway, I guess it never hurts, and I've been wrong before. On to your other question, I tried really hard to suggest the LPGs, and they are a viable option. The guy at Madisound is correct in that they are designed for off-axis. Put those on-axis and they could tear your head off without some good EQ cutting on the top end. The big problem, and why I didn't suggest them is their Fs. It's rather high, and effectively only useable from about 3200 hz and above. I've heard of people getting 3000 hz with 24db slopes out of them, but that's risky, and not applicable in your situation. If you had picked the CA15, then the LPGs would have been my first suggestion. The CA18/LPG combo is a very tried and true combo that sounds fantastic. Typical CA problem though is that midrange dynamics are a bit low. Now, if the guy at Madisound is confident that the L15 can handle 3000 hz, off-axis, then the LPG is a great option. With that cone breakup, though, at 8000 hz, that's going to be a tough sell for me. Anyway, from the pictures it didn't look like the A-pillar locations were that much off-axis. If you said you wanted the CA15, then the LPG would be my first suggestion. If you changed your mind to the CA15, in order to use the LPG, you would in no way be wrong. The MDT 12, though, offers a bit lower response, and as long as it's not 60 degrees off-axis then sounds very nice, and will mate with the L15 a bit better. I guess I never did ask what kind of tweeter you prefer. The MDT 12 is a very laid back airy tweeter, with good detail. It's a typical Morel sounding tweeter. The LPG is very bright and sparkly. Detail is superb, and they are great off-axis. Both have compromises and neither are the perfect tweeter for every situation. The best price to performance tweeter IMO is the Seas Neo. That tweeter is the best compromise of performance, ability, and cost. It's pretty big though for a small format, and would have been my first choice to couple with the L15, but it doesn't look like it would fit in your a-pillars. Here's a link if you want to check it out and take some measurements. [URL="http://www.madisound.com/cgi-bin/index.cgi?cart_id=4132415.16845&pid=2138"]http://www.madisound.com/cgi-bin/index.cgi?cart_id=4132415.16845&pid=2138[/URL] [/QUOTE]
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