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I know DEAD HORSE.. but if you feel like it,.. Help me with Class A/B vs Class D.
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<blockquote data-quote="Chromatic" data-source="post: 8222366" data-attributes="member: 659121"><p>I'm not stubborn.. however I may come across. I'm a bit of a perfectionist.. but I don't see it as a negative trait,.. when speed is of the essence it doesn't hold me back in work. With my own stuff,.. like this car.. this is all on my own time and there is really no deadline on it.. so I can spend as much time as I wish. I honestly don't think I've "over-done" anything with this install that has caused any negative reactions with the way it operates. I understand your analogy, but it's not incredibly applicable to this. I'm actually a very laid back guy,.. I work fast by nature, but I do check and triple check before and after I do things (if I have the time). And my personality has always been insatiably curious.. as long as I've been alive.. Which is why I ask so many dam.n questions .. If it gets annoying, well, I apologize.</p><p></p><p></p><p>lol! Death box.. It's not that bad. MANY people put there amps in this location without issue in this car.. now, that logic doesn't necessarily mean it's RIGHT.. just saying. I wouldn't be having this conversation at all if I wasn't a TINY bit concerned about the temperature range of the amplifier,.. which I have every intention of rectifying. I know I can keep it in this location and keep it adequately cool in proper "operating" temp ranges.</p><p></p><p>Honestly, I think just throwing a fan in the spot just about anywhere is going to get airflow going.. no it won't be fresh outside air, but moving air across the amp is going to create radiational cooling that just isn't happening right now with the stagnant air in that "Death box" as you so aptly put it. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif</p><p></p><p>I'm even thinking about using one of my CM fans because they are black.. and will just look better and less intrusive in the area,.. I'm sure you've seen Noctua fans,.. they aren't exactly good looking. I'm going to use the relay option pointed out earlier so things will operate properly, safely, and kick on when the amp/hu does, and off when they aren't on. I may end up deciding that there just isn't enough room left in that spot to go to the trouble of fabricating a shelf, and just stick in a fan, and it's essentially a dedicated amp (Death box).</p><p></p><p>The BEST thing I could do for it would be to drill some 3/16th holes in the center of the door itself.. then mount the fan on the inside of the door pulling air from the outside of the death box (cabin of car).. and blowing it into the area. Though again,.. I'm going to try a fan just to push some air around inside the Box of Death first and see what happens.. if the amp continues to get hotter than I like, I'll essentially destroy the door,.. but at the same time when I sell this car in the future.. the system goes with it, so any "custom" work I do is just a benefit to the buyer. Plus I doubt that door is more than $100,.. every trim part on this car is about $100 it seems.</p><p></p><p>The amp is on a flat surface.. I built the surface it is on.. and it's on 1/4" spacers.. it isn't flat against that carpet,..</p><p></p><p>I just don't have any real idea of the temperatures this particular amp is supposed to normally go to under heavy use. And, neither do you. The amp is not getting to temperatures that you can't keep your hand on the amp indefinitely.. but as a Class D 900 watt amp I expected it to not heat up at all.. only way I could compare is to talk to others with the EXACT amplifier. PPI Tech support is a joke, I called,.. went to voicemail,.. left message to call me back,.. I got two email addy's for the (one guy) who runs it.. emailed, he never responded. So,.. meh. (I wasn't contacting based on the temp of this amp, it was about the advertised features, and some that are missing on the actual amp.)</p><p></p><p>The quickest solution would be to just remove the door. -- Or the "Second fastest" may be to drill some holes in the door that look "decent".. just to let air get to it. I could remove the door, and let it go with another movie or something and just see what the temps get to on the amp. If they still get as hot as before.. it's just normal for the amp.</p><p></p><p>Thanks for your help.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Chromatic, post: 8222366, member: 659121"] I'm not stubborn.. however I may come across. I'm a bit of a perfectionist.. but I don't see it as a negative trait,.. when speed is of the essence it doesn't hold me back in work. With my own stuff,.. like this car.. this is all on my own time and there is really no deadline on it.. so I can spend as much time as I wish. I honestly don't think I've "over-done" anything with this install that has caused any negative reactions with the way it operates. I understand your analogy, but it's not incredibly applicable to this. I'm actually a very laid back guy,.. I work fast by nature, but I do check and triple check before and after I do things (if I have the time). And my personality has always been insatiably curious.. as long as I've been alive.. Which is why I ask so many dam.n questions .. If it gets annoying, well, I apologize. lol! Death box.. It's not that bad. MANY people put there amps in this location without issue in this car.. now, that logic doesn't necessarily mean it's RIGHT.. just saying. I wouldn't be having this conversation at all if I wasn't a TINY bit concerned about the temperature range of the amplifier,.. which I have every intention of rectifying. I know I can keep it in this location and keep it adequately cool in proper "operating" temp ranges. Honestly, I think just throwing a fan in the spot just about anywhere is going to get airflow going.. no it won't be fresh outside air, but moving air across the amp is going to create radiational cooling that just isn't happening right now with the stagnant air in that "Death box" as you so aptly put it. [IMG]//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif[/IMG] I'm even thinking about using one of my CM fans because they are black.. and will just look better and less intrusive in the area,.. I'm sure you've seen Noctua fans,.. they aren't exactly good looking. I'm going to use the relay option pointed out earlier so things will operate properly, safely, and kick on when the amp/hu does, and off when they aren't on. I may end up deciding that there just isn't enough room left in that spot to go to the trouble of fabricating a shelf, and just stick in a fan, and it's essentially a dedicated amp (Death box). The BEST thing I could do for it would be to drill some 3/16th holes in the center of the door itself.. then mount the fan on the inside of the door pulling air from the outside of the death box (cabin of car).. and blowing it into the area. Though again,.. I'm going to try a fan just to push some air around inside the Box of Death first and see what happens.. if the amp continues to get hotter than I like, I'll essentially destroy the door,.. but at the same time when I sell this car in the future.. the system goes with it, so any "custom" work I do is just a benefit to the buyer. Plus I doubt that door is more than $100,.. every trim part on this car is about $100 it seems. The amp is on a flat surface.. I built the surface it is on.. and it's on 1/4" spacers.. it isn't flat against that carpet,.. I just don't have any real idea of the temperatures this particular amp is supposed to normally go to under heavy use. And, neither do you. The amp is not getting to temperatures that you can't keep your hand on the amp indefinitely.. but as a Class D 900 watt amp I expected it to not heat up at all.. only way I could compare is to talk to others with the EXACT amplifier. PPI Tech support is a joke, I called,.. went to voicemail,.. left message to call me back,.. I got two email addy's for the (one guy) who runs it.. emailed, he never responded. So,.. meh. (I wasn't contacting based on the temp of this amp, it was about the advertised features, and some that are missing on the actual amp.) The quickest solution would be to just remove the door. -- Or the "Second fastest" may be to drill some holes in the door that look "decent".. just to let air get to it. I could remove the door, and let it go with another movie or something and just see what the temps get to on the amp. If they still get as hot as before.. it's just normal for the amp. Thanks for your help. [/QUOTE]
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