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<blockquote data-quote="stangme01" data-source="post: 456428" data-attributes="member: 554027"><p>okay last night I stooped low and was about to do this *****in and tossin like the rest of the forum, but I'm gonna stop.</p><p></p><p>BUT i will explain why I was angry.</p><p></p><p>You said "fishy" That means to me either, you think I'm lying, or that I don't know what I'm talking about. Well I'm sorry if I took offense to that but I think anyone that is honest and pretty knowledgeable about subs would be offended THATS why i got upset.</p><p></p><p>NOW as for "closed minded" How could I be closed minded considering I took a chance on this sub, the only person being closed minded is you, wondering about how it could possibly be as good or better than subs that cost more on the "internet". Or how this "SPL sub" could sound that good.</p><p></p><p>as for your power i run an Orion 2500D (which is rated at 1ohm to do 2500wrms)</p><p></p><p>at .5ohms which would be considered to be around 3200w (or actually its a 6400w amp by your logic since you have a 1000w amp that does 500wrms) or more "RMS" but because of impedance rise and because various fluxuations in impedance on every frequency you won't hardly ever see close to your "RMS" power and THATS why I say I'm running 2000w to mine because even though the amp can do 2500w the impedance at the very frequency I'm playing would have to be a frequency which the sub has low impedance which would have to be at least 1ohm and my sub even though its a .5ohm sub will hardly ever be at 1ohm so most of the time i cannot get more than 2000w out of my amp. because even though your sub maybe rated at 1ohm, 2ohm 4ohm whatever nominal soon as you start playing music the impedance is much higher.</p><p></p><p>Lets just say for the sake of arguement you are running a 4ohm sub and an amp that does 500w @4ohm.</p><p></p><p>for most frequencies in an enclosure your impedance is actually probably at least 2-3ohms more than your nominal impedance, so you will normally be around 6-8ohm. And no matter how hard you push the amp with your volume button you could probably only get 250w out of the amp for the most part.</p><p></p><p>as for being a newb, i'm pretty sure you are, and a few months on the net doesn't mean you're not a newb.</p><p></p><p>Also Magnum D2 an SPL sub? actually its not, its just as much an SQ sub as the Brahma and XXX, but gets loud. Nick (the owner of SI) is an audiophile, he would never build an SPL sub.</p><p></p><p>****? Bafoon? Crackhead? Yeah thats pretty childish.</p><p></p><p>But as for the SX that is anything but an SQL sub, its straight SPL, and from talking to a few people these last couple days i've heard it really does sound like doodoo. But thats what its for, a budget SPL sub.</p><p></p><p>also let you know what all these are hitting? What? I dont have all my subs anymore how can I go out and get metered JUST FOR YOU!!! Dude I'm not a rep for Powerbass if you want to go buy another sub it makes no difference to me, I'm not trying to force you to buy one, if powerbass goes out of business, i don't really care!</p><p></p><p>SirSyko,</p><p></p><p>the reason there are no sealed specs listed is because its a low QTS sub, its EBP is WAYYYYYYYY high. Some subs are meant to be sealed some ported. LIke the Focal Utopia sub, its made to be ported.</p><p></p><p>Sealed is not always better IMO either for SQ, actually I don't prefer it for SQ alot of times. for 99.9% of subs (except dual gap subs) more excursion, the more distortion goes up BIG TIME. in sealed enclosures subs need lots of excursion to get loud. In ported enclosures the sub hardly moves (for people like us that listen to music) so the sub has FAR less distortion. There are alot of other reasons but this is getting too long.</p><p></p><p>Also weight makes absolutely no difference, bigger magnets do not mean anything (which is what is weighing so much) i hate big ol heavy magnets like the xxx has, i absolutely hated the fact that I added 60lbs to my car just for a sub. Also the Magnum D2 weighs around 36lbs too. So do most subs, like the H2 i think weighs around that. But my point is, you can have huge magnets or small magnets (but the PBX magnet is not small) and the small magnet sub could get alot louder, and the small magnet sub can sound better AND get louder. Bigger magnet does not mean more SPL, or better SQ //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif</p><p></p><p>And no the PBX is not just a good sounding sub for an SPL sub, its simply a great sounding sub //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="stangme01, post: 456428, member: 554027"] okay last night I stooped low and was about to do this *****in and tossin like the rest of the forum, but I'm gonna stop. BUT i will explain why I was angry. You said "fishy" That means to me either, you think I'm lying, or that I don't know what I'm talking about. Well I'm sorry if I took offense to that but I think anyone that is honest and pretty knowledgeable about subs would be offended THATS why i got upset. NOW as for "closed minded" How could I be closed minded considering I took a chance on this sub, the only person being closed minded is you, wondering about how it could possibly be as good or better than subs that cost more on the "internet". Or how this "SPL sub" could sound that good. as for your power i run an Orion 2500D (which is rated at 1ohm to do 2500wrms) at .5ohms which would be considered to be around 3200w (or actually its a 6400w amp by your logic since you have a 1000w amp that does 500wrms) or more "RMS" but because of impedance rise and because various fluxuations in impedance on every frequency you won't hardly ever see close to your "RMS" power and THATS why I say I'm running 2000w to mine because even though the amp can do 2500w the impedance at the very frequency I'm playing would have to be a frequency which the sub has low impedance which would have to be at least 1ohm and my sub even though its a .5ohm sub will hardly ever be at 1ohm so most of the time i cannot get more than 2000w out of my amp. because even though your sub maybe rated at 1ohm, 2ohm 4ohm whatever nominal soon as you start playing music the impedance is much higher. Lets just say for the sake of arguement you are running a 4ohm sub and an amp that does 500w @4ohm. for most frequencies in an enclosure your impedance is actually probably at least 2-3ohms more than your nominal impedance, so you will normally be around 6-8ohm. And no matter how hard you push the amp with your volume button you could probably only get 250w out of the amp for the most part. as for being a newb, i'm pretty sure you are, and a few months on the net doesn't mean you're not a newb. Also Magnum D2 an SPL sub? actually its not, its just as much an SQ sub as the Brahma and XXX, but gets loud. Nick (the owner of SI) is an audiophile, he would never build an SPL sub. ****? Bafoon? Crackhead? Yeah thats pretty childish. But as for the SX that is anything but an SQL sub, its straight SPL, and from talking to a few people these last couple days i've heard it really does sound like doodoo. But thats what its for, a budget SPL sub. also let you know what all these are hitting? What? I dont have all my subs anymore how can I go out and get metered JUST FOR YOU!!! Dude I'm not a rep for Powerbass if you want to go buy another sub it makes no difference to me, I'm not trying to force you to buy one, if powerbass goes out of business, i don't really care! SirSyko, the reason there are no sealed specs listed is because its a low QTS sub, its EBP is WAYYYYYYYY high. Some subs are meant to be sealed some ported. LIke the Focal Utopia sub, its made to be ported. Sealed is not always better IMO either for SQ, actually I don't prefer it for SQ alot of times. for 99.9% of subs (except dual gap subs) more excursion, the more distortion goes up BIG TIME. in sealed enclosures subs need lots of excursion to get loud. In ported enclosures the sub hardly moves (for people like us that listen to music) so the sub has FAR less distortion. There are alot of other reasons but this is getting too long. Also weight makes absolutely no difference, bigger magnets do not mean anything (which is what is weighing so much) i hate big ol heavy magnets like the xxx has, i absolutely hated the fact that I added 60lbs to my car just for a sub. Also the Magnum D2 weighs around 36lbs too. So do most subs, like the H2 i think weighs around that. But my point is, you can have huge magnets or small magnets (but the PBX magnet is not small) and the small magnet sub could get alot louder, and the small magnet sub can sound better AND get louder. Bigger magnet does not mean more SPL, or better SQ [IMG]//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif[/IMG] And no the PBX is not just a good sounding sub for an SPL sub, its simply a great sounding sub [IMG]//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif[/IMG] [/QUOTE]
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