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<blockquote data-quote="MDXBLUE" data-source="post: 2248931" data-attributes="member: 570596">AlphaKenny1 and Blue,I think you two had both make excellent points!!!I strongly agree with Alphakenny1 that tuning is essential for &quot;repairing&quot; acoustic defficiencies in a car cabin.&nbsp; An environment with a small volume, untreated hard reflecting surfaces, and limited speakers positions are the challenges to ultimate sound quality.&nbsp; These things are responsible for the freq rsponse peak and dips.&nbsp; No high quality head unit can repair these alone.&nbsp; Therefore a processor with flexible tuning capabilites is needed to flat the freq response (tonality)so the sound output is true to the source.I also completely agree with Blue that the sound from a quality cd player can not be duplicated by a mediocre player with a quality processor.&nbsp; The resolution, and &quot;realness&quot; of the sound simply have to produce by a head unit with good design and quality parts.&nbsp; These qualities are what separate the &quot;Wow! your stereo sound fxxking good&quot; from the &quot;Holy cow! the musician is singing right&nbsp; in front of me&quot;.&nbsp; However, it really depend on how critical you are and what kind of music you listen to.&nbsp; Most guys here just want a good &quot;radio&quot; to hook up his ipod.&nbsp; Average guys would not know what to listen for unless they have listen to a high quality setup.&nbsp; Again, these &quot;realness&quot; and &quot;naturalness&quot; Blue talked about can only be heard after the acoustics problems in the car have been &quot;repaired&quot;.Essentially, I am looking for a setup that has a balanced of compromises between good tuning capabilities and high resolution simply because I can not afford to have both.&nbsp; A good specification only tell you part of the story.Too bad, me and Thermal can not listen to the Alpine and the Clarion in our own vehicle to decide which way sound better.&nbsp; That would be the easiest way as only the end result count!</blockquote>

[QUOTE="MDXBLUE, post: 2248931, member: 570596"] AlphaKenny1 and Blue, I think you two had both make excellent points!!! I strongly agree with Alphakenny1 that tuning is essential for "repairing" acoustic defficiencies in a car cabin. An environment with a small volume, untreated hard reflecting surfaces, and limited speakers positions are the challenges to ultimate sound quality. These things are responsible for the freq rsponse peak and dips. No high quality head unit can repair these alone. Therefore a processor with flexible tuning capabilites is needed to flat the freq response (tonality)so the sound output is true to the source. I also completely agree with Blue that the sound from a quality cd player can not be duplicated by a mediocre player with a quality processor. The resolution, and "realness" of the sound simply have to produce by a head unit with good design and quality parts. These qualities are what separate the "Wow! your stereo sound fxxking good" from the "Holy cow! the musician is singing right in front of me". However, it really depend on how critical you are and what kind of music you listen to. Most guys here just want a good "radio" to hook up his ipod. Average guys would not know what to listen for unless they have listen to a high quality setup. Again, these "realness" and "naturalness" Blue talked about can only be heard after the acoustics problems in the car have been "repaired". Essentially, I am looking for a setup that has a balanced of compromises between good tuning capabilities and high resolution simply because I can not afford to have both. A good specification only tell you part of the story. Too bad, me and Thermal can not listen to the Alpine and the Clarion in our own vehicle to decide which way sound better. That would be the easiest way as only the end result count! [/QUOTE]

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